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Interesting how employees are expected to be "professional" by just putting up with whatever bullshit, but Musk can openly bitch and moan and slate Twitter's em

by yintom 4y ago

Interesting how employees are expected to be "professional" by just putting up with whatever bullshit, but Musk can openly bitch and moan and slate Twitter's employees and the work they've done, and that is somehow okay. Double standards.

snvzz 4y ago
Employees don't own Twitter. Elon Musk does. He has every right, within the confines of the law, to choose how the company is run.
- yintom 4y ago
  Twitter, and indeed any company except one-man shops, is nothing without employees. Musk would do well to put his fragile ego to one side and not antagonise the current set of employees, or he'll be owning a bunch of code and data that rapidly becomes unmanageable as institutional knowledge is lost.
  - snvzz 4y ago
    I do not have a hold of the big picture, and will thus abstain from making armchair commentary on how Twitter should be run. However, I do presume that most employees do not take issue with Musk's leadership, much unlike the drama we see in social media; Its nature does in fact tend to make everything into drama, even where there's none to be found.
    - freejazz 4y ago
      > "However, I do presume that most employees do not take issue with Musk's leadership" Really? I can't imagine working in a shop where a new boss comes in, makes such a public ruckus about everything, practically destroys everything, fires the vast majority of my colleagues, and then acts like a jerk about the whole thing... What kind of workplaces have you experienced that lead you to believe such conduct is something that "most employees" would not take issue with?
- mikkergp 4y ago
  > He has every right, within the confines of the law, to choose how the company is run. And because of that he shouldn’t be criticized?
  - kelseyfrog 4y ago
    Yes, Elon paid billions of dollars not to be criticized. How can I make this more clear?
    - mikkergp 4y ago
      If Elon didn't want to be criticized, why would he buy Twitter? It seems to me the consequence of buying Twitter would be to make him the most criticized person on the planet! To me it would be like me drilling a hold into my boat so it would float better. > How can I make this more clear? Let me see if I hear you correctly, and then you can try to clarify. You're saying that Elon paid billions of dollars to buy Twitter so he wouldn't be criticized. Do I have that right? I think it might clarify things if you told me how you see that as an effective strategy. He may be able to prevent people from criticizing him on Twitter, but I think off of Twitter, people are going to continue to criticize him, so it seems pretty ineffective. Also, can you tell me where you are getting the impression this was his goal?
- TheCoelacanth 4y ago
  And we have every right within the confines of the law to criticize how he runs it.
- freejazz 4y ago
  The post you are responding to didn't ask who has the "right" to do things. They asked if it is fair or reasonable that there is such a disparity.
- Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
  > Elon Musk does. Elon Musk doesn't own Twitter. Twitter owns him. That's a rather fundamental difference.
- dragonwriter 4y ago
  > Employees don't own Twitter. Elon Musk does. > He has every right, within the confines of the law, to choose how the company is run. And the employees have every right, within the law, to question how the company is run, and the factual premises of decisions. And, sure, when he's broken internal comms he is free to shoot the messenger when disputes occur in public as a result, but that doesn't fix issues and it just makes it less likely the truth will reach him through the culture of fear he has created. He can and has the right to stick his fingers in his ears and crash Twitter into the ground, sure.

by yintom 4y ago

snvzz 4y ago

Employees don't own Twitter. Elon Musk does. He has every right, within the confines of the law, to choose how the company is run.

yintom 4y ago
Twitter, and indeed any company except one-man shops, is nothing without employees. Musk would do well to put his fragile ego to one side and not antagonise the current set of employees, or he'll be owning a bunch of code and data that rapidly becomes unmanageable as institutional knowledge is lost.
- snvzz 4y ago
  I do not have a hold of the big picture, and will thus abstain from making armchair commentary on how Twitter should be run. However, I do presume that most employees do not take issue with Musk's leadership, much unlike the drama we see in social media; Its nature does in fact tend to make everything into drama, even where there's none to be found.
  - freejazz 4y ago
    > "However, I do presume that most employees do not take issue with Musk's leadership" Really? I can't imagine working in a shop where a new boss comes in, makes such a public ruckus about everything, practically destroys everything, fires the vast majority of my colleagues, and then acts like a jerk about the whole thing... What kind of workplaces have you experienced that lead you to believe such conduct is something that "most employees" would not take issue with?
mikkergp 4y ago
> He has every right, within the confines of the law, to choose how the company is run. And because of that he shouldn’t be criticized?
- kelseyfrog 4y ago
  Yes, Elon paid billions of dollars not to be criticized. How can I make this more clear?
  - mikkergp 4y ago
    If Elon didn't want to be criticized, why would he buy Twitter? It seems to me the consequence of buying Twitter would be to make him the most criticized person on the planet! To me it would be like me drilling a hold into my boat so it would float better. > How can I make this more clear? Let me see if I hear you correctly, and then you can try to clarify. You're saying that Elon paid billions of dollars to buy Twitter so he wouldn't be criticized. Do I have that right? I think it might clarify things if you told me how you see that as an effective strategy. He may be able to prevent people from criticizing him on Twitter, but I think off of Twitter, people are going to continue to criticize him, so it seems pretty ineffective. Also, can you tell me where you are getting the impression this was his goal?
TheCoelacanth 4y ago
And we have every right within the confines of the law to criticize how he runs it.
freejazz 4y ago
The post you are responding to didn't ask who has the "right" to do things. They asked if it is fair or reasonable that there is such a disparity.
Bubble_Pop_22 4y ago
> Elon Musk does. Elon Musk doesn't own Twitter. Twitter owns him. That's a rather fundamental difference.
dragonwriter 4y ago
> Employees don't own Twitter. Elon Musk does. > He has every right, within the confines of the law, to choose how the company is run. And the employees have every right, within the law, to question how the company is run, and the factual premises of decisions. And, sure, when he's broken internal comms he is free to shoot the messenger when disputes occur in public as a result, but that doesn't fix issues and it just makes it less likely the truth will reach him through the culture of fear he has created. He can and has the right to stick his fingers in his ears and crash Twitter into the ground, sure.