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Manga Creator Demands Payment After Elon Musk Uses Their Art

kadoban 4y ago
I would humbly suggest that issuing DMCA takedowns of the posts in question would probably be fun.
- ronsor 4y ago
  Memes are usually protected by fair use (parody)
  - SahAssar 4y ago
    Only if the parody is parodizing the original artwork.
  - fundad 4y ago
    His parody is ok.
  - kadoban 4y ago
    They're generally not actually, they just exist because playing wack-a-mole trying to get everyone to take it down is not worth the effort. Fair use is a fairly complicated and nuanced thing, with several considerations for what's allowed and not. It's really not as simple as "oh that's parody", especially when it's...pretty obviously not. Memes are for the most part just plain jokes, not parodies of the work(s) being used.
    - EMIRELADERO 4y ago
      While not parody, the 4th fair use factor ("The effect of the use on the potential market") would save memes.
      - kadoban 4y ago
        That's _one_ of four factors (mostly) in their favor. It's not pick a winner though, it's some vague combination of them all.
subjectsigma 4y ago
It's so strange how some people will do literally anything to defend Musk (who doesn't care about them and doesn't owe them anything) and some people will do literally anything for the chance to take a petty potshot at a billionaire (who also doesn't care about them and will never be hurt by their silly games)
- kadoban 4y ago
  "literally anything" is here defined as tweeting once?
  - bicepjai 4y ago
    In the online world, does it have any other meaning ? :)
  - subjectsigma 4y ago
    I've seen people purchase or sell cars because they don't like what Elon is doing at that moment.
- DaiPlusPlus 4y ago
  > It's so strange how some people will do literally anything to defend Musk (who doesn't care about them and doesn't owe them anything) I think a lot of us live vicariously through Elon... (or at least, the pre-asshole Elon). The same reason some people defend the multi-millionnaire class: why penalize the group you desparately want to be a part of?

I would humbly suggest that issuing DMCA takedowns of the posts in question would probably be fun.

ronsor 4y ago
Memes are usually protected by fair use (parody)
- SahAssar 4y ago
  Only if the parody is parodizing the original artwork.
- fundad 4y ago
  His parody is ok.
- kadoban 4y ago
  They're generally not actually, they just exist because playing wack-a-mole trying to get everyone to take it down is not worth the effort. Fair use is a fairly complicated and nuanced thing, with several considerations for what's allowed and not. It's really not as simple as "oh that's parody", especially when it's...pretty obviously not. Memes are for the most part just plain jokes, not parodies of the work(s) being used.
  - EMIRELADERO 4y ago
    While not parody, the 4th fair use factor ("The effect of the use on the potential market") would save memes.
    - kadoban 4y ago
      That's _one_ of four factors (mostly) in their favor. It's not pick a winner though, it's some vague combination of them all.

It's so strange how some people will do literally anything to defend Musk (who doesn't care about them and doesn't owe them anything) and some people will do literally anything for the chance to take a petty potshot at a billionaire (who also doesn't care about them and will never be hurt by their silly games)

kadoban 4y ago
"literally anything" is here defined as tweeting once?
- bicepjai 4y ago
  In the online world, does it have any other meaning ? :)
- subjectsigma 4y ago
  I've seen people purchase or sell cars because they don't like what Elon is doing at that moment.
DaiPlusPlus 4y ago
> It's so strange how some people will do literally anything to defend Musk (who doesn't care about them and doesn't owe them anything) I think a lot of us live vicariously through Elon... (or at least, the pre-asshole Elon). The same reason some people defend the multi-millionnaire class: why penalize the group you desparately want to be a part of?