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This is a good example showing why OS and services should be decoupled. Bundling both gives an incentive to nerf one to prop up the other.

Gigachad 4y ago
You can’t decouple Siri from the OS. It needs deep access in to sensitive areas of the OS. Decoupling it would just result in mass abuse of user data far beyond the problems of music links.
- harry8 4y ago
  Siri is OS and fine to be in the OS. The vendor of that OS should not also have services like selling music brokered by preferential treatment by the OS. You sell the hardware and the system software Or you sell the apps Not both.
- smoldesu 4y ago
  Can you explain to me exactly which technologies are preventing Siri from being made into an iPhone app? Somehow, I don't believe you.
  - rgovostes 4y ago
    In fact Siri was originally an app (Apple bought it). To your question, a simple example is "Hey Siri" https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/hey-siri https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/hey-siri > To avoid running the main processor all day just to listen for the trigger phrase, the iPhone’s Always On Processor (AOP) (a small, low-power auxiliary processor, that is, the embedded Motion Coprocessor) has access to the microphone signal (on 6S and later). We use a small proportion of the AOP’s limited processing power to run a detector with a small version of the acoustic model (DNN). When the score exceeds a threshold the motion coprocessor wakes up the main processor, which analyzes the signal using a larger DNN. Yes, as with all things they could come up with a way to let third-party apps program the AOP with a different detector, but my point is that Siri has deeper integration into the device. Apple's privacy and security rules also limit what a third-party app could do. For example, Siri knows what apps you have installed, but apps aren't able to access this information. Siri can make modifications to system settings; apps cannot.

Gigachad 4y ago

You can’t decouple Siri from the OS. It needs deep access in to sensitive areas of the OS. Decoupling it would just result in mass abuse of user data far beyond the problems of music links.

harry8 4y ago
Siri is OS and fine to be in the OS. The vendor of that OS should not also have services like selling music brokered by preferential treatment by the OS. You sell the hardware and the system software Or you sell the apps Not both.
smoldesu 4y ago
Can you explain to me exactly which technologies are preventing Siri from being made into an iPhone app? Somehow, I don't believe you.
- rgovostes 4y ago
  In fact Siri was originally an app (Apple bought it). To your question, a simple example is "Hey Siri" https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/hey-siri https://machinelearning.apple.com/research/hey-siri > To avoid running the main processor all day just to listen for the trigger phrase, the iPhone’s Always On Processor (AOP) (a small, low-power auxiliary processor, that is, the embedded Motion Coprocessor) has access to the microphone signal (on 6S and later). We use a small proportion of the AOP’s limited processing power to run a detector with a small version of the acoustic model (DNN). When the score exceeds a threshold the motion coprocessor wakes up the main processor, which analyzes the signal using a larger DNN. Yes, as with all things they could come up with a way to let third-party apps program the AOP with a different detector, but my point is that Siri has deeper integration into the device. Apple's privacy and security rules also limit what a third-party app could do. For example, Siri knows what apps you have installed, but apps aren't able to access this information. Siri can make modifications to system settings; apps cannot.