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Drama Queen :) Make a new account from a fresh email and you are probably good to go. How would they know it is you? If you use your work email, yeah, you hav

Drama Queen :) Make a new account from a fresh email and you are probably good to go. How would they know it is you? If you use your work email, yeah, you have to ask your employer to give you another one. But is that so hard? If the permaban is appropriate is a different discussion. Without seeing that comment that go you banned, it's impossible to say.

ch4s3 4y ago
They're probably using among other things IP addresses.
- JonathanBeuys 4y ago
  You mean they banned the whole hedge fund OP works for?
  - ch4s3 4y ago
    They're probably seeing a new account pop up and using the ip range along with some machine info leaked by the browser to pin down the OP, or just the machine info.
  - siproprio 4y ago
    No. And also they banned me before I started working for the hedge fund. Previously I worked at Siemens, we did not use GitHub, we had a self hosted Gitlab instance.
- SoftTalker 4y ago
  That's way too general. An entire company and dozens of people could be behind one IP address.
  - ch4s3 4y ago
    Sure, if you only try to use it from work that may make ti a bit harder to pinpoint which is why I said among other things. I think we're all aware that browsers leak information about you and your machine if you aren't careful.
siproprio 4y ago
I tried that. It’s the third account they terminated. Whether or not the comment warrants a permaban or not, I’d gladly delete it, avoid the behavior in the future, and also clearly regret it!
- JonathanBeuys 4y ago
  Figure out how they figure out. IP? Unlikely. You probably do not use a static IP that only you use, right? Your ssh keys? Delete them. Cookies? Delete them. Fingerprint? Use a different browser to find out. Etc etc. If you are not too technically versed, maybe start from a fresh computer.
  - siproprio 4y ago
    Work and home ip address/geolocation. Work domain. Work projects. Browser fingerprinting. Vscode telemetry data. Windows telemetry data. There are lots of ways to track it, and probably there’s a machine learning algorithm that helps it, because every time I find a loophole, when I’m suspended again the loophole stops working.
Dylan16807 4y ago
> If the permaban is appropriate is a different discussion. Without seeing that comment that go you banned, it's impossible to say. When you need github access to have so many jobs, it starts to reach the point where basically no comment should result in a permanent ban.
- bdcravens 4y ago
  It also means we need to learn the art of judicious commenting.
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    A really bad comment shouldn't have harsher consequences on your life than many criminal punishments.
    - bdcravens 4y ago
      I don't disagree. Doesn't mean that there aren't lessons to be learned about the long-term consequences of our speech.
  - the_third_wave 4y ago
    Who decides which comments are 'bad' enough to get you banned? "They are a private company and can ban whoever they want"... OK, and suddenly you find yourself banned for expressing an opinion which totally fits with your own ideology and which you thought was the epitome of virtue. You just forgot the company got bought and the new management follows a different ideology. Is the company still right in their decision to ban you? If not, why not?
    - bdcravens 4y ago
      I said nothing about company policies. The issue of social media entitlement are orthogonal, and could easily rear their head if the dev you bad-mouthed in a comments ends up being your manager. Perhaps I'm just an old geezer, but I'm very careful to keep my business clean for anything that may touch me financially.
mindcrash 4y ago
> How would they know it is you? Systems in use at several Big Tech companies can cross check any number of (meta) data attached to the account, resulting in flagged accounts and possibly even automated bans. This is the reason that at least some permanently banned people on Twitter need to use VPN, a new name/bio and a burner phone to create and maintain a new account. Using a IP address used to access the old one and/or the same phone number and/or the same or a very similar name/bio (probably using a Levenshtein like algo to check similarity) automatically flags the new account.

ch4s3 4y ago

They're probably using among other things IP addresses.

JonathanBeuys 4y ago
You mean they banned the whole hedge fund OP works for?
- ch4s3 4y ago
  They're probably seeing a new account pop up and using the ip range along with some machine info leaked by the browser to pin down the OP, or just the machine info.
- siproprio 4y ago
  No. And also they banned me before I started working for the hedge fund. Previously I worked at Siemens, we did not use GitHub, we had a self hosted Gitlab instance.
SoftTalker 4y ago
That's way too general. An entire company and dozens of people could be behind one IP address.
- ch4s3 4y ago
  Sure, if you only try to use it from work that may make ti a bit harder to pinpoint which is why I said among other things. I think we're all aware that browsers leak information about you and your machine if you aren't careful.

siproprio 4y ago

I tried that. It’s the third account they terminated. Whether or not the comment warrants a permaban or not, I’d gladly delete it, avoid the behavior in the future, and also clearly regret it!

JonathanBeuys 4y ago
Figure out how they figure out. IP? Unlikely. You probably do not use a static IP that only you use, right? Your ssh keys? Delete them. Cookies? Delete them. Fingerprint? Use a different browser to find out. Etc etc. If you are not too technically versed, maybe start from a fresh computer.
- siproprio 4y ago
  Work and home ip address/geolocation. Work domain. Work projects. Browser fingerprinting. Vscode telemetry data. Windows telemetry data. There are lots of ways to track it, and probably there’s a machine learning algorithm that helps it, because every time I find a loophole, when I’m suspended again the loophole stops working.

Dylan16807 4y ago

> If the permaban is appropriate is a different discussion. Without seeing that comment that go you banned, it's impossible to say. When you need github access to have so many jobs, it starts to reach the point where basically no comment should result in a permanent ban.

bdcravens 4y ago
It also means we need to learn the art of judicious commenting.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  A really bad comment shouldn't have harsher consequences on your life than many criminal punishments.
  - bdcravens 4y ago
    I don't disagree. Doesn't mean that there aren't lessons to be learned about the long-term consequences of our speech.
- the_third_wave 4y ago
  Who decides which comments are 'bad' enough to get you banned? "They are a private company and can ban whoever they want"... OK, and suddenly you find yourself banned for expressing an opinion which totally fits with your own ideology and which you thought was the epitome of virtue. You just forgot the company got bought and the new management follows a different ideology. Is the company still right in their decision to ban you? If not, why not?
  - bdcravens 4y ago
    I said nothing about company policies. The issue of social media entitlement are orthogonal, and could easily rear their head if the dev you bad-mouthed in a comments ends up being your manager. Perhaps I'm just an old geezer, but I'm very careful to keep my business clean for anything that may touch me financially.

mindcrash 4y ago

> How would they know it is you? Systems in use at several Big Tech companies can cross check any number of (meta) data attached to the account, resulting in flagged accounts and possibly even automated bans. This is the reason that at least some permanently banned people on Twitter need to use VPN, a new name/bio and a burner phone to create and maintain a new account. Using a IP address used to access the old one and/or the same phone number and/or the same or a very similar name/bio (probably using a Levenshtein like algo to check similarity) automatically flags the new account.