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Short answer: Don't be based in the US until the US respects fundamental human rights, like the right to sue before a proper court. Simple, isn't it? The more
by still_grokking 4y ago
Short answer: Don't be based in the US until the US respects fundamental human rights, like the right to sue before a proper court. Simple, isn't it?
The more pragmatic answer is: You can just ignore human rights. The other US companies operating in the EU also don't have issues with that.
The EU isn't going to enforce its own laws in this regard anyway as more or less all EU governments are violating this laws themself. They currently all just waiting for the next round of the "safe harbor" smoke grenade.
On the other side, the EU companies that use US cloud services (so more or less all EU companies) do by the way exactly the same. Nobody cares.
- ghoward 4y agoI'm going to respect human rights. And I'm going to act legally, even if it appears I can't do business in the EU, which appears to be true.
- still_grokking 4y agoPlease complain to your representative about that! All that's needed is that the USA start to recognize the rights of non US people. That's all. Nobody likes the current situation. Really. But it's not OK that governments collect data without proper court warrants, warrants which could be legally challenged. (And no, it's not only the US. We have here in the EU the exact same battle against our local authorities. Now that we've got some additional rights in form of the GDPR this rights need to get enforced finally. In all kinds of directions).
- ghoward 4y ago> Please complain to your representative about that! I have done that. Through all levels of government. But the establishment is going to do what it's going to do, regardless of party.