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This is a tempest in a teapot. We (still) don't have any court ruling here. Of course more or less all US based cloud services are illegal in the EU currently
by still_grokking 4y ago
This is a tempest in a teapot.
We (still) don't have any court ruling here.
Of course more or less all US based cloud services are illegal in the EU currently. At least in theory. That's no news. (CLOUD Act & Co. was pointed out already by others).
But until we don't have some crystal clear rulings form the highest courts that get actually enforced this makes no difference.
The main point why this illegality does not mater in practice: Our own governments are using AWS and MS products, and all such stuff. They're completely in vendor lock-in there, and they could not change that for (at least) the next one or two decade, even if they would start right now trying to replace this stuff. But of course nobody even thinks about changing anything in this regard…
They put hopes in the next, also clearly illegal, version of the "safe harbor" regulations that's about to surface "soonish". When implemented it will take again 5 to 10 years to go through all legal instances to finally find out that a "safe harbor" agreement, no matter how you call it this time, is still fundamentally incompatible with EU law. But they will win this way another 5 to 10 years!
Than this game will start anew, and they will first ignore the law and the court ruling (like they do currently with the last one), than the EU government will try to implement the next version of "safe harbor", or something like that, to "avoid further legal uncertainty", and than it will take another 5 to 10 years to sue that into oblivion. And so forth. (We're currently already in round three of this shit show!)
The linked post would be much more interesting if this case would actually go to court.
But of course Shopify is not interested in this. They're just waiting for the next "safe harbor"; like everybody else.
Of course they won't stop doing business in the EU. Exactly like MS, AWS, Apple, Meta, and this like, won't. Because there is just nobody to actually enforce the law as more or less all EU governments are also violating it.