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> You’re confusing the CCS chargers outside of North America. The ones in NA are absolute trash and Tesla is right to try to kill them off as fast as possible b
by zzzeek 4y ago
> You’re confusing the CCS chargers outside of North America. The ones in NA are absolute trash and Tesla is right to try to kill them off as fast as possible before electric car volume that uses them becomes significant.
noting that you appear to agree with my assessment that they want to kill off CCS and force all carmakers to use their ports as a means of avoiding having to change their own supercahrgers, otherwise, no thanks, I own a new car with the NA CCS charger and it was a significant investment. I'd prefer my car not be "killed off".
> Tesla is well over half of the electric cars. There’s no reason for them to accommodate the absolute worst standard at their stations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Charging_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_Charging_System
> Automobile manufacturers that support CCS include BMW, Daimler, FCA, Ford, Jaguar, General Motors, Groupe PSA, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Mazda, MG, Polestar, Renault, Rivian, Tesla, Mahindra, Tata Motors and Volkswagen Group.[1][2]
unless they are compelled to do so in the interest of the public good so that "nearly half of electric cars" (currently already on the road) aren't trashed. or please make an adapter for existing CCS cars.
here's a vendor that appears to be planning to manufacture such an adapter. pretty hard to find, though. https://evadept.com/tesla-supercharger-to-ccs-adapter-guide/ https://evadept.com/tesla-supercharger-to-ccs-adapter-guide/
- Dylan16807 4y ago> I'd prefer my car not be "killed off". > trashed This level of hyperbole makes it hard to take you seriously. Even if it was true, I think that would mean you're advocating for all the Teslas to be killed off, which I think would mean you're more wrong than they are!
- lolc 4y agoThey were reacting to the terms being used, not introducing them. Read the parent.
- Dylan16807 4y ago1. The parent was talking about a plug not vehicles. 2. The parent of that parent was also by zzzeek, talking about trashing vehicles. And that was a top level comment.
- lolc 4y agoIndeed, I should have taken my own advice and read the context more :-)
- zzzeek 4y agoto be clear the term "killed off" was directly from kortilla's sentence "The ones in NA are absolute trash and Tesla is right to try to kill them off as fast as possible before electric car volume that uses them becomes significant.". I did not introduce that term and that's why I quoted it. if CCS connectors are "killed off", that renders CCS cars out in the cold, unless adapters are produced which as yet don't exist.
- Dylan16807 4y agoThere's no way the connectors get killed off and there are no adapters. Also, so far there's been no reason to make an adapter, so nobody has. It should be straightforward.
- zzzeek 4y agothe socket in my car can't be changed unless the vendor produced an upgrade kit, which is very unlikely to ever occur. it would be "use an inconvenient $250 adapter (that doesnt yet exist) every time you charge at a DC station"
- kortilla 4y ago>want to kill off CCS and force all carmakers to use their ports as a means of avoiding having to change their own supercahrgers, otherwise, no thanks, I own a new car with the NA CCS charger and it was a significant investment. I'd prefer my car not be "killed off". Get a grip. They are killing off attaching that stupid charger to all of the infrastructure being built out by both Tesla and everyone else. It’s a laudable goal. You’ll always be able to carry around an adapter to that sewer pipe sized connector you put in your car for its entire lifetime. It’s not going away and you’ll always be able to charge. Just because you invested in a poor UX we don’t need to saddle the next 50 years of electric cars with trash. Of course a CCS adapter would be available. It’s money on the table for both chargers and vendors.