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The CLOUD Act gives US law enforcement access to the data, even if it's only stored in Europe. That's the problem, and the EU court is doing no more than recogn
by lmkg 4y ago
The CLOUD Act gives US law enforcement access to the data, even if it's only stored in Europe. That's the problem, and the EU court is doing no more than recognizing that for the problem that it is.
- shafyy 4y agoI think it's good that the EU is forcing the US to get their privacy laws in order.
- dylan604 4y agoForcing? More like strongly suggesting, but that feels too strong as well. "Hey Yanks! Would you mind getting your shite together? K? Thanks!" Which the US is quite like Fark Off, we do what we want! You're not the king of me!
- scarface74 4y agoTell that to the owner of the business.
- Silverback_VII 4y agowho for goodness sake needs privacy to buy some coffee online? This is just bullshit and slows down innovation. Moreover It is a big hassle just like these cookie consent banners. Nothing shows better that European leaders are powerless than this sort of nitpicking over things of little importance.
- __m 4y agoData privacy IS an innovation.
- mbreese 4y agoI don't think the EU will force the US to do anything w.r.t. privacy. Instead, we'll see EU based CDNs start to take over customers from US CDNs. Less "get your act together", more "we'd rather do this ourselves...".
- BlueTemplar 4y agoYeah, see for instance this discussion : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27393854 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27393854
- mafuy 4y agoThat is true, tho I don't think it will happen in practice. But regardless: one has to admit that it is not different from how the current embargos affect Russian people. Punish the citizens so they (try to) put pressure on the government to act better.
- nopenopenopeno 4y agoThe EU does not force the US to do anything.
- bcrosby95 4y agoWait, do you think law enforcement agencies in Europe can't force companies to reveal ip addresses and/or other customer information?
- marcosdumay 4y agoThey can do whatever the local laws allow. If the local laws forbid it, then they can't.
- kube-system 4y agoThe idea that this type of information would be shielded from a legal warrant (or local equivalent) is silly.
- JasonFruit 4y agoI think you and I have different definitions of "can't".
- BlueTemplar 4y agoThis is perhaps more about intelligence agencies : (we would NOT be in this situation if Patriot Act => Snowden scandal had not happened) https://www.lawfareblog.com/how-europes-intelligence-services-aim-avoid-eus-highest-court-and-what-it-means-united-states https://www.lawfareblog.com/how-europes-intelligence-service... Still, I think you can see how a lot of people might feel more comfortable being spied upon by "their own" intelligence agencies, than foreign ones ? (Since, in democratic countries, these agencies are at least theoretically under the control of governments, which are in theory representative of citizens.) And while the USA (unlike, say, Russia or China), is treated as an EU ally, their unrivaled power combined with their "world police" actions end up chafing even in the EU...