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By invading Ukraine, Putin has achieved the exact opposite he wanted to achieve. The West is now more united than ever and more Russia border countries are goin

By invading Ukraine, Putin has achieved the exact opposite he wanted to achieve. The West is now more united than ever and more Russia border countries are going to join NATO. On top of that he has destroyed Russian economy. Tell me how that's not stupid? But he likely saw the alternative as Ukraine in NATO, colour revolutions spreading to Russia, and ending up like Gadaffi (whose gruesome death he was said to have watched on video over and over again). Probably he regrets not doing it sooner, when the Ukranian military was in much worse shape.

palata 4y ago
This. From his point of view, he was pushed to that. Of course I condemn it, but if we could accept that he does not perceive the West the way we do, maybe it would help. From where he stands, democracy is a threat. The fact that we disagree won't change it.
uxcolumbo 4y ago
Maybe. But I find Bill Browder’s explanation more plausible. Essentially Putin is like a Mafia boss and his organisation has been stealing from the Russian for years and years. To keep up his regime and organisation he needs to create conflicts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Browder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Browder Also watch the documentary by Navalny that exposed Putin… one reason why he is now in prison.
midoridensha 4y ago
If he was really that worried about being the next Gadaffi, he could have just retired to a countryside home and set things up so his cronies took over. Even if the cronies fucked up and became the next Gadaffi, Putin himself would have been mostly forgotten by then and all the rage would have been directed to the people actually in charge at the time. However, when you have narcissistic personality disorder, as Putin does, doing the above just isn't an option.
marcosdumay 4y ago
Why don't those people just liquidate some sizeable amount of money that would last for a few generations and run away into some country that is receptive to rich murderers? Every dictators seems to have the need to sink with their governments and take the country together for a ride.
panick21_ 4y ago
> But he likely saw the alternative as Ukraine in NATO This is nonsense. Specially after 2014. > colour revolutions spreading to Russia Revolutions are not successful unless driving by elites of that country.

palata 4y ago

This. From his point of view, he was pushed to that. Of course I condemn it, but if we could accept that he does not perceive the West the way we do, maybe it would help. From where he stands, democracy is a threat. The fact that we disagree won't change it.

uxcolumbo 4y ago

Maybe. But I find Bill Browder’s explanation more plausible. Essentially Putin is like a Mafia boss and his organisation has been stealing from the Russian for years and years. To keep up his regime and organisation he needs to create conflicts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Browder https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Browder Also watch the documentary by Navalny that exposed Putin… one reason why he is now in prison.

midoridensha 4y ago

If he was really that worried about being the next Gadaffi, he could have just retired to a countryside home and set things up so his cronies took over. Even if the cronies fucked up and became the next Gadaffi, Putin himself would have been mostly forgotten by then and all the rage would have been directed to the people actually in charge at the time. However, when you have narcissistic personality disorder, as Putin does, doing the above just isn't an option.

marcosdumay 4y ago

Why don't those people just liquidate some sizeable amount of money that would last for a few generations and run away into some country that is receptive to rich murderers? Every dictators seems to have the need to sink with their governments and take the country together for a ride.

panick21_ 4y ago

> But he likely saw the alternative as Ukraine in NATO This is nonsense. Specially after 2014. > colour revolutions spreading to Russia Revolutions are not successful unless driving by elites of that country.