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No. And Musk already said so. What’s the intention of the FUD?

TulliusCicero 4y ago
> And Musk already said so. You think this matters? Did you not see the whole "comedy is legal again" followed by banning/suspending people for parodies? How quickly he went back on "free speech"?
- coffeeblack 4y ago
  How is identity theft or impersonation “comedy“? Are all the crypto spammers “comedy” for you? Why not stay real and stop all the hate?
  - TulliusCicero 4y ago
    Really tearing off the mask there. Another point into the "free speech until I don't like it" column. Not to mention not understanding what parody and satire are, of course. To this day there are people who still think Sarah Palin actually said "I can see Russia from my house!" but that doesn't make it not satire.
  - freejazz 4y ago
    It's called parody, and you can't actually seriously be asking, can you? You probably thought that The Onion amici brief on parody was good! Yet here you are, insisting that if parody doesn't reveal itself, it's identity theft and impersonation. Never heard of a comedian that "does impressions"? Doing an impression isn't illegal. Mimicking someone except as to say things they'd obviously not say, is exactly what parody is and it's not illegal and it's certainly not problem speech in anyway (as opposed to spam, which makes sites illegible/unusable).
    - coffeeblack 4y ago
      Is creating a false “Musk” account to spam people with some shitcoin “parody”? Is creating a fake Musk account to post hatefull shit under his name “parody”? What is up with the New Left and this total absence of reason and ethics? Actual parody is completely okay and NOT banned (unlike it was on Old Twitter).
      - freejazz 4y ago
        >Is creating a false “Musk” account to spam people with some shitcoin “parody”? Is creating a fake Musk account to post hatefull shit under his name “parody”? No, and yes. I'm not sure what's difficult to navigate about that? the first might even be commercial speech. >"What is up with the New Left and this total absence of reason and ethics?" I don't know? You tell me? Who is the new left? What do they have to do with this conversation at all? >Actual parody is completely okay and NOT banned (unlike it was on Old Twitter). There is no category of parody that is "actual parody". There is just parody, and not parody. The examples I provided were all parody that is now again banned... In your example, posting hateful shit as musk is parodic and is banned.
        TulliusCicero 4y ago
        Most of the "hateful shit" is just making fun of him, and mockery is a super common use of parody, this isn't some weird edge case.

> And Musk already said so. You think this matters? Did you not see the whole "comedy is legal again" followed by banning/suspending people for parodies? How quickly he went back on "free speech"?

coffeeblack 4y ago
How is identity theft or impersonation “comedy“? Are all the crypto spammers “comedy” for you? Why not stay real and stop all the hate?
- TulliusCicero 4y ago
  Really tearing off the mask there. Another point into the "free speech until I don't like it" column. Not to mention not understanding what parody and satire are, of course. To this day there are people who still think Sarah Palin actually said "I can see Russia from my house!" but that doesn't make it not satire.
- freejazz 4y ago
  It's called parody, and you can't actually seriously be asking, can you? You probably thought that The Onion amici brief on parody was good! Yet here you are, insisting that if parody doesn't reveal itself, it's identity theft and impersonation. Never heard of a comedian that "does impressions"? Doing an impression isn't illegal. Mimicking someone except as to say things they'd obviously not say, is exactly what parody is and it's not illegal and it's certainly not problem speech in anyway (as opposed to spam, which makes sites illegible/unusable).
  - coffeeblack 4y ago
    Is creating a false “Musk” account to spam people with some shitcoin “parody”? Is creating a fake Musk account to post hatefull shit under his name “parody”? What is up with the New Left and this total absence of reason and ethics? Actual parody is completely okay and NOT banned (unlike it was on Old Twitter).
    - freejazz 4y ago
      >Is creating a false “Musk” account to spam people with some shitcoin “parody”? Is creating a fake Musk account to post hatefull shit under his name “parody”? No, and yes. I'm not sure what's difficult to navigate about that? the first might even be commercial speech. >"What is up with the New Left and this total absence of reason and ethics?" I don't know? You tell me? Who is the new left? What do they have to do with this conversation at all? >Actual parody is completely okay and NOT banned (unlike it was on Old Twitter). There is no category of parody that is "actual parody". There is just parody, and not parody. The examples I provided were all parody that is now again banned... In your example, posting hateful shit as musk is parodic and is banned.
      - TulliusCicero 4y ago
        Most of the "hateful shit" is just making fun of him, and mockery is a super common use of parody, this isn't some weird edge case.