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Academic addiction goes unnoticed (2018)

29 points by amichail 4y ago

tomrod 4y ago
This article feels like a PG submarine. For what, I am not sure. There are no citations in the article, but rather quotes from a math teacher and student. I'm not sure this article is helpful, and believe it dilutes the meaning of "addiction".
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- pvg 4y ago
  from https://scotscoop.com/about/ https://scotscoop.com/about/ About Us Founded in 2010, Scot Scoop News is a student-run journalism website by the students of Carlmont High School’s journalism class.
riwsky 4y ago
From the desk of Harry G. Frankfurt: The liar cares about the truth and attempts to hide it; the bullshitter doesn't care if what they say is true or false, but cares only whether the listener is persuaded.
- riwsky 4y ago
  [Immediately sees another comment point out that the author is a high schooler.] It's still bullshit! But the infraction is not severe enough to merit trial as an adult! I hereby remand the case to juvenile court! [Gavel: Bang! Bang!] Bullshit court: dismissed!
IIAOPSW 4y ago
I don't get the hate this is getting in the comments. Everything in it rings true. There absolutely is such a thing as non-chemical addictions. Gambling addictions being the most notable. Being a work-a-holic is another. It should come as wholly uncontroversial that there really is a large fraction of students addicted to the grade-game. Hell we've all seen this. The type who shamelessly asks "will this be on the test?". The type who is not even pretending like they care about the content or like they will bother to retain any information after passing the class. The grade game is no better nor worse a game to be addicted to than a casino game. What is the difference between the addicts society looks up to and the ones it looks down on? I don't know either.
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- russelldjimmy 4y ago
  I could relate to this article and I’m glad it was written. HN has a strange obsession with demanding “citations” when someone is writing an anecdotal experience. It’s as though anecdotes are immediately dismissed as “false” till they’re backed with “citations” which are “true”. It’s bizarre.
  - tomrod 4y ago
    As my comment was calling out the citations, allow me to clarify that if one is defining a new category of pathology, it would be wise to build on prior support. This is why citations get requested. I get the intent of the article, but still feel it dilutes the meaning of addiction by claiming good grades are addictive.
- chongli 4y ago
  The difference is that the grade game can lead to positive life outcomes. People who do really well in school, all else being equal, tend to do better in life. Of course, all else is rarely equal and people who spend all their time studying tend to have a difficult time making friends. How that affects them in the long run is difficult to say. Very few people continue to take courses throughout their lives. At some point the grades game comes to an end.

29 points by amichail 4y ago

This article feels like a PG submarine. For what, I am not sure. There are no citations in the article, but rather quotes from a math teacher and student. I'm not sure this article is helpful, and believe it dilutes the meaning of "addiction".

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pvg 4y ago
from https://scotscoop.com/about/ https://scotscoop.com/about/ About Us Founded in 2010, Scot Scoop News is a student-run journalism website by the students of Carlmont High School’s journalism class.

riwsky 4y ago

From the desk of Harry G. Frankfurt: The liar cares about the truth and attempts to hide it; the bullshitter doesn't care if what they say is true or false, but cares only whether the listener is persuaded.

riwsky 4y ago
[Immediately sees another comment point out that the author is a high schooler.] It's still bullshit! But the infraction is not severe enough to merit trial as an adult! I hereby remand the case to juvenile court! [Gavel: Bang! Bang!] Bullshit court: dismissed!

IIAOPSW 4y ago

I don't get the hate this is getting in the comments. Everything in it rings true. There absolutely is such a thing as non-chemical addictions. Gambling addictions being the most notable. Being a work-a-holic is another. It should come as wholly uncontroversial that there really is a large fraction of students addicted to the grade-game. Hell we've all seen this. The type who shamelessly asks "will this be on the test?". The type who is not even pretending like they care about the content or like they will bother to retain any information after passing the class. The grade game is no better nor worse a game to be addicted to than a casino game. What is the difference between the addicts society looks up to and the ones it looks down on? I don't know either.

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russelldjimmy 4y ago
I could relate to this article and I’m glad it was written. HN has a strange obsession with demanding “citations” when someone is writing an anecdotal experience. It’s as though anecdotes are immediately dismissed as “false” till they’re backed with “citations” which are “true”. It’s bizarre.
- tomrod 4y ago
  As my comment was calling out the citations, allow me to clarify that if one is defining a new category of pathology, it would be wise to build on prior support. This is why citations get requested. I get the intent of the article, but still feel it dilutes the meaning of addiction by claiming good grades are addictive.
chongli 4y ago
The difference is that the grade game can lead to positive life outcomes. People who do really well in school, all else being equal, tend to do better in life. Of course, all else is rarely equal and people who spend all their time studying tend to have a difficult time making friends. How that affects them in the long run is difficult to say. Very few people continue to take courses throughout their lives. At some point the grades game comes to an end.