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This is really disappointing to read. Mick's soundtrack was a huge part of making DOOM 2016 and Eternal such great experiences. His talk at GDC where he goes i

This is really disappointing to read. Mick's soundtrack was a huge part of making DOOM 2016 and Eternal such great experiences. His talk at GDC where he goes into some of the process of creating the soundtrack is fantastic, so much fun to see the creativity he brought to the game's music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4FNBMZsqrY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4FNBMZsqrY The next DOOM will be a little less DOOMy without him.

danuker 4y ago
> DOOMy This popped to mind, an unrelated but appropriate song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOJcY3iMZG8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOJcY3iMZG8
sgjohnson 4y ago
> The next DOOM will be a little less DOOMy without him. He didn’t do the music for DOOM Eternal DLCs and it already shows.
somat 4y ago
It was a great soundtrack, perfect for doom. but that talk left me confused. what I got out of it. he did not want your normal heavy metal soundtrack so he deconstructed music down to it's core, created a bunch of noise, layered it up to make the songs... but it sounded bad, so he had to add the heavy metal back in. At the end I am like... so your whole process... was for nothing?
- tehbeard 4y ago
  I mean, learning a hypothesis doesn't work isn't for nothing? And unlike previous entries in the series, iirc, during gameplay the soundtrack reacts to the player's progress rather than just being there in the background.
test1235 4y ago
For the longest time, that GDC video was the most watched on their channel. Even now, it still appears to be a close second. I've watched it through twice myself, despite not even working in the game or music industry.
runevault 4y ago
His sheer enthusiasm in this video is incredible. Also the glee when he adds 666 to the music lol (or maybe it was a pentagram, or both? Been a while since I watched).
- agentwiggles 4y ago
  The spectrogram stuff you're referencing was one of my favorite parts, and also the description of his crazy array of pedals he used to get the signature sound.
  - filoleg 4y ago
    Gordon's YouTube channel is amazing. His videos about creating the sound of DOOM (2016) are stuck in my head very strongly. The guy clearly is extremely passionate about his work, and he loves going into the nitty gritty of the process. His very short video about the old soviet hardware synth he managed to find and pretty much had to reverse-engineer to make use of was very memorable[0]. 0. https://youtu.be/oKzYf1JW7kE https://youtu.be/oKzYf1JW7kE
musha68k 4y ago
The soundtrack for Eternal was the only thing that felt special about this sequel IMO. Doom 2016 was and is amazing though, instant classic including the congenial soundtrack. I’m even less excited about any further sequel now. Too bad John Carmack didn’t want to put up more with the business side of things. Zenimax are slowly becoming the worst of all the gravedigger big gaming companies.
- WorldMaker 4y ago
  Zenimax became a part of Microsoft soon after Doom Eternal. Don't know if the management changes after that help or not.
  - musha68k 4y ago
    Wow, we do live in a strange reality at this point. Masters of Doom clearly a distant past.
    - filoleg 4y ago
      I am glad you mentioned Masters of Doom. I've read it on the bus commute during my internship at Microsoft back in college ~6-7 years ago, and I cannot recommend this book enough. I didn't want to work in gamedev at the time (due to being fairly familiar with how awful working in that industry was), and I still don't. Neither do I have a strong emotional attachment to the original DOOM, I was way too young to appreciate it back when it was released, and I didn't live in a country where it was a cultural hit. I still have no interest or fascination with working in gamedev industry now. However, that book was something else, and it rocked my world. It is about as strong of a book rec as I can give. Both Carmack and Romero created something very special there, and it is fascinating as hell to read it. Especially since Carmack and his current endeavors are still very relevant to the world of today. P.S. The last sentence wasn't meant to be a dig at Romero at all. I just don't see him being mentioned in the news much anymore, especially compared to Carmack, and I honestly have no idea what he is up to. But that doesn't diminish his contribution to the story of DOOM and beyond at all.
- 4y ago
ilaksh 4y ago
We've had enough DOOMs. Let him work on something new.

danuker 4y ago

> DOOMy This popped to mind, an unrelated but appropriate song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOJcY3iMZG8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOJcY3iMZG8

sgjohnson 4y ago

> The next DOOM will be a little less DOOMy without him. He didn’t do the music for DOOM Eternal DLCs and it already shows.

somat 4y ago

It was a great soundtrack, perfect for doom. but that talk left me confused. what I got out of it. he did not want your normal heavy metal soundtrack so he deconstructed music down to it's core, created a bunch of noise, layered it up to make the songs... but it sounded bad, so he had to add the heavy metal back in. At the end I am like... so your whole process... was for nothing?

tehbeard 4y ago
I mean, learning a hypothesis doesn't work isn't for nothing? And unlike previous entries in the series, iirc, during gameplay the soundtrack reacts to the player's progress rather than just being there in the background.

test1235 4y ago

For the longest time, that GDC video was the most watched on their channel. Even now, it still appears to be a close second. I've watched it through twice myself, despite not even working in the game or music industry.

runevault 4y ago

His sheer enthusiasm in this video is incredible. Also the glee when he adds 666 to the music lol (or maybe it was a pentagram, or both? Been a while since I watched).

agentwiggles 4y ago
The spectrogram stuff you're referencing was one of my favorite parts, and also the description of his crazy array of pedals he used to get the signature sound.
- filoleg 4y ago
  Gordon's YouTube channel is amazing. His videos about creating the sound of DOOM (2016) are stuck in my head very strongly. The guy clearly is extremely passionate about his work, and he loves going into the nitty gritty of the process. His very short video about the old soviet hardware synth he managed to find and pretty much had to reverse-engineer to make use of was very memorable[0]. 0. https://youtu.be/oKzYf1JW7kE https://youtu.be/oKzYf1JW7kE

musha68k 4y ago

The soundtrack for Eternal was the only thing that felt special about this sequel IMO. Doom 2016 was and is amazing though, instant classic including the congenial soundtrack. I’m even less excited about any further sequel now. Too bad John Carmack didn’t want to put up more with the business side of things. Zenimax are slowly becoming the worst of all the gravedigger big gaming companies.

WorldMaker 4y ago
Zenimax became a part of Microsoft soon after Doom Eternal. Don't know if the management changes after that help or not.
- musha68k 4y ago
  Wow, we do live in a strange reality at this point. Masters of Doom clearly a distant past.
  - filoleg 4y ago
    I am glad you mentioned Masters of Doom. I've read it on the bus commute during my internship at Microsoft back in college ~6-7 years ago, and I cannot recommend this book enough. I didn't want to work in gamedev at the time (due to being fairly familiar with how awful working in that industry was), and I still don't. Neither do I have a strong emotional attachment to the original DOOM, I was way too young to appreciate it back when it was released, and I didn't live in a country where it was a cultural hit. I still have no interest or fascination with working in gamedev industry now. However, that book was something else, and it rocked my world. It is about as strong of a book rec as I can give. Both Carmack and Romero created something very special there, and it is fascinating as hell to read it. Especially since Carmack and his current endeavors are still very relevant to the world of today. P.S. The last sentence wasn't meant to be a dig at Romero at all. I just don't see him being mentioned in the news much anymore, especially compared to Carmack, and I honestly have no idea what he is up to. But that doesn't diminish his contribution to the story of DOOM and beyond at all.
4y ago

ilaksh 4y ago

We've had enough DOOMs. Let him work on something new.