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"We’ve shifted more of our resources onto a smaller number of high priority growth areas [like] our long-term vision for the metaverse" Imagine laying off elev
by cnees 4y ago
"We’ve shifted more of our resources onto a smaller number of high priority growth areas [like] our long-term vision for the metaverse"
Imagine laying off eleven thousand people so you can keep clinging to the disintegrating corpse of the metaverse.
- romanovcode 4y agoI wonder if no-one from higher-ups in Meta tell Zuckerberg that it is not going to happen and explain to him what sunk cost fallacy is.
- warinukraine 4y agoAnyone who says that to him will get fired, and that makes sense: In his mind, if you don't believe the vision that he's going all in in, then you're just detracting.
- ausudhz 4y agoAnother delusional CEO practically
- fullshark 4y agoMaybe Sandberg did, and he disagreed and now she's gone with a bunch of stuff leaked to try and embarrass her.
- jakeinspace 4y agoI’d feel pretty embarrassed right now to be working in VR at meta while seeing coworkers getting laid off.
- datalopers 4y ago
- _boffin_ 4y agoWhy? If I were working there and on that tech, I’d stay. It’s a cool project and I like working on cool projects while being able to live a comfortable life. What are you working on that’s more fascinating than VR?
- throwaway7346 4y ago> Aerospace software engineer, putting bits in space.
- _boffin_ 4y agoThat’s pretty nifty. What do you like about it? Edit: why did you use a throwaway to reply to my comment?
- jakeinspace 4y agoThat wasn’t me, they were just quoting my bio. I wasn’t trying to compare my field to VR. I enjoying working on code knowing that it will (hopefully) be sitting in orbit soon, but there are more than enough negatives to turn one away (relatively low pay, ancient tooling, dated management practices and general industry inertia).
- jakeinspace 4y agoVR is cool. I didn’t mean to say that Meta VR engineers deserve to feel guilty, but I imagine it would be strange to be working in a massive cost center (which may eventually spell Meta’s downfall), while seeing coworkers dismissed. Definitely don’t think my job is any more fascinating to than VR (although I personally am more interested in my work).
- Loughla 4y agoHonestly, it is amusing to see him put so much effort into 2nd life II , but: How can you call it a disintegrating corpse when it's been in the public eye for what, a few months? I don't get it.
- _dan 4y agoIt is in fact the opposite of disintegrating - they only just got legs!
- Kye 4y agoIt's just for show. They don't have a leg to stand on.
- marktangotango 4y agoWatch the Joe Rogan interview with Zuckerburg. There's a moment in there where Rogan gives Zuckerberg a reality check on it, it's hilarious.
- fullshark 4y agoThis? https://youtu.be/rgh3ELuDZGY https://youtu.be/rgh3ELuDZGY
- marktangotango 4y agoThat's the one thanks! I was just searching for the link.
- SilasX 4y agoSo the one-off point about it being creepy while gushing about it through the rest? Not much of a reality check.
- imoverclocked 4y agoThe comments on that are telling. Does Zuckerberg always seem that forced when he’s interacting with people?
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- belval 4y agoI have this (maybe wrong) opinion that Meta can't be the one to bring an actual VR/Metaverse project because they are too "on the radar" of medias. Adoption of new technologies is always done by more fringe members and then picked up by critical mass. You can't successfully build a metaverse without accepting the kind of weird deviant stuff that goes on in VRChat and Meta can't accept the weird deviant stuff because they will immediately get called out for it. So you get "Horizon" and its assortment of low-quality games that feel more like a tech demo than an actual world that you could lose yourself in.
- Kye 4y agoI guarantee it's going to be some furry working on VRChat stuff who finds its policies or technology too limiting and sets off to do something better. It's already sort of happened. I don't know that Frooxius started NeosVR for that reason, but it came after VRChat and is one of the major competitors.
- shuckles 4y agoiPhone was speculated about as an Apple product for years by the media before it came out. Newsweek even did a cover story about it. Also, the initial launch of iPhone didn’t support apps or Flash (i.e. no porno videos on the web!), and the App Store has never supported deviant communities. Apple’s policies probably precipitated Tumblr’s no nudity moderation.
- bombcar 4y agoVersus "windows phone" in its fifty billion iterations which was exactly what OP talked about. If Facebook had quietly (and they were for the longest time!) continued to work on Oculus and done some internal skunkworks projects, instead of a big PR push and a company rename, maybe they could pull an iPhone. Personally, I think they drank the meta verse koolaid to get everyone to stop talking about election interference and other things that were being blamed on them, and I think it mostly worked.
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- i_have_an_idea 4y agoWell, they missed the boat being a platform on mobile or desktop. So, now they have Apple/Google dictating terms to them. They are really desperate to own the next big thing. Whether that'll be VR, who knows.
- bombcar 4y agoThey've lost $10b on the metaverse so far; you'd think you could design a phone at least SOMEWHAT decent for that price, and at least get a TINY foothold back into the market.
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- jibe 4y agoThey gave it at least a weak try, with terrible results. https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/heres-why-the-facebook-phone-flopped/ https://www.cnet.com/tech/mobile/heres-why-the-facebook-phon...
- bombcar 4y agoThat's the amazing thing, they tried it once, badly, in 2013 and never bothered trying again.
- robotnikman 4y agoWow, can't believe it's almost been a decade since that was a thing. Back when HTC was still around making some of the best phones at the time too, I miss my HTC One. Also, same thing happened when Amazon tried releasing the Fire Phone. I think a combination of being carrier exclusive and using sub-optimal hardware was a big contributing factor to both their demise.
- giantrobot 4y agoFacebook making a phone would have had similar problems as VR: what would be the draw of a Facebook phone? If it's an Android phone it's just an Android phone with Facebook branding. They can't deliver exclusive features to only Facebook Fone owners as their money comes from ads so they need the broadest reach for features. If they rolled their own OS they'd have to spend a lot of effort building and maintaining that platform. If Microsoft and Amazon can't will a third phone platform into existence Facebook definitely can't. Their $10B metaverse spend is a waste but I think it would have been a waste on a phone as well.
- stiltzkin 4y agoHN and Reddit always get it wrong about the future, the Metaverse is still an on-going under development ecosystem and Facebook bad image gives it a negative perspective.
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- klenwell 4y agoI detest the Meta metaverse as much as the next Hacker News user. But there is one use case where I could see it luring me in. Virtual meetings. Really virtual social events or happy hours. Professional ones mainly with my remote distributed team. This would be the killer app in my view. The key to me it seems would be in the audio. Like if I turn to face someone, the audio adjusts so everything else in virtual room get quieter (but still audible). I can have a conversation with the person I'm facing. Multiple conversations can go on at once. Just like in a real room! Anybody know if this is something that current state of the metaverse supports? Is this something being actively researched and developed?
- sergiotapia 4y agoIt takes balls to do what The Zuck is doing. Facebook is stagnant and dying. It's being chipped away by Tiktok and neutered by Apple's monopoly. He could ride the facebook ship into the sunset and have it die 20 years from now. But no, he's betting big and going for broke. I hope he succeeds just for the sheer stones he's displaying. Really inspiring to see a man aim so high.
- hashtag-til 4y agoI'm sure there are lots of competent people putting a lot of effort in "Metaverse", but to me it looks really just yet another VR world. Does anyone know what is the concrete new thing it would make successful?