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Glasses aren't that expensive. I buy them from https://zennioptical.com https://zennioptical.com I don't think that I'd ever pay more than $100 for a frame ag

by chasil 4y ago

Glasses aren't that expensive. I buy them from https://zennioptical.com https://zennioptical.com I don't think that I'd ever pay more than $100 for a frame again. The sunglasses that we buy in a drugstore can be had for paltry sums, why not prescription eyewear?

savrajsingh 4y ago
Is that the same co as eyebuydirect.com? That’s who I’ve used
P_I_Staker 4y ago
I definitely think it's cool that they have some pretty freaking cheap frames. That said, I didn't pay more than $100 for my frame. They didn't have that many $100+ glasses at the store. I think the frames that I bought for like $60 (didn't even hit the max, so they were free). Honestly, think they're nicer than most of the frames there. You can buy oakleys for like $40-70. Even the sale ones tend to look better than the ones on zenni. Some of the nicer zenni's are $40+ anyway. Of course it is really cool to see decent frames for $20 or less. I'm going to keep it in mind in the future.
RajT88 4y ago
Indeed. I buy 5 pairs of glasses at a time (cheapest ones I can manage which look OK). 5 at a time is still cheaper than 1/3rd the price of low cost normal glasses. And each of those 5 pairs is half as durable. It is a similarly wild situation where eye exams at Walmart can be cheaper than at a regular eye doctor covered by my insurance.
- LorenPechtel 4y ago
  Something I have noticed with eye "insurance"--mostly they pay $X for particular things but when you look at what's available it's something like $X *above* what we pay at Costco. In one case I was even able to confirm that the "insurance" isn't actually paying anything. And the only time I've paid over $100 for frames is when I order the ones with a magnetic polarized clip-on that are hard to find. (And I wish I could find something like my old ones where the magnets were on top instead of on the bottom. It was more secure.)
- Nition 4y ago
  I bought my lone pair of glasses in 2009 and I've replaced the lenses once since then. I wear them every day. Now I'm wondering what everyone else is doing.
  - LorenPechtel 4y ago
    Some of us have eyes that don't permit that. From the point I started needed glasses I have only once gone a year on the pair I use for the computer--nothing wrong with the glass, it's just my eyes drift enough that they start giving me headaches. I usually get 2-3 years out of my progressives before they're too far off and need replacement. With an adaptable lens my brain simply automatically compensates as my eyes change, I only need replacement when the infinity goes wrong or as my astigmatism changes too much.
  - BridgetJones 4y ago
    FYI, I wear my glasses 16 hours a day (100% of awake time), so I replace them every year, just to get a fresh pair.
  - walnutclosefarm 4y ago
    Mine generally last a two years or so, before they are scratched and fogged to the point that my vision is affected. The big culprit is dust - often metal dust, but also hardwood dust - in the shop. Even if you religiously use a non-scratching, micro-fiber wipe (which is hard), just dragging the stuff across the lenses damages them. Another culprit is glue, particularly CA (super) glue but also other types. You may not think it would end up on your glasses, but if you're using much of it, eventually microdroplets end up on your lenses. This does immediate, permanent damage to polycarbonate lenses. My desk glasses, optimized for computer screen distance and never actually leaving my office, on the other hand - easily last a decade with no discernable damage. Because - no significant dust, no organic vapors, no glue, and always wiped with a clean micro-fiber wipe.
    - lobocinza 4y ago
      Rinse with water before wiping.
- robertlagrant 4y ago
  > It is a similarly wild situation where eye exams at Walmart can be cheaper than at a regular eye doctor covered by my insurance. I don't know the situation, but it's possible that Walmart doesn't make any money on that, or even loses money, to get you into a Walmart store.
  - bombcar 4y ago
    It might be, but I suspect not; the optometrist is 'independent' so if Walmart is subsidizing them it's by free rent or something. It's likely that it's mainly volume (and NO insurance paperwork at all) - the one I went to doesn't even take insurance, cash or credit card only.
  - bluGill 4y ago
    Unless state law says otherwise the optician is an independent business. Check your local laws, some states don't allow that arrangement. I'm not sure what the business deal is, but it looks to me like the rent the space from walmart and wal-mart does the scheduling. That is the person who does the exam isn't a WalMart employee, but they use WalMart for services. If you watch close you will notice they use a different POS system for paying for your exam from the one you use to buy your glasses.
    - LorenPechtel 4y ago
      Independent doesn't mean that there isn't a profit to Walmart in having it there. I go to one of those Walmart eye docs--she's independent of the store and has her own office staff, but her office has a second door that opens into Walmart's optical center.
smt88 4y ago
> I don't think that I'd ever pay more than $100 for a frame again. $100 sounds like it's ~10x what the price should actually be for simple plastic shapes, and it's probably more than 100x the actual cost to manufacture them.
- ajmurmann 4y ago
  You don't pay $100 on Zenni for simple glasses. I bought a pair of glasses there with metal frame, anti-glare and anti-fog coating for under $20 with shipping.
- tikhonj 4y ago
  I assume that's $100 including the lenses—seems like a reasonable price for something that requires custom high-precision manufacturing, although it would be great for the price to come down even further over time. I have a moderately strong prescription (with slight differences for each eye) and I got the best glasses I've ever had from Zenni for $72.90 + tax. Could have been $60 without a presumably overpriced anti-reflective coating. I don't remember how much my glasses cost from traditional sources, but I think it was on the order of $200–$300 after insurance.
  - P_I_Staker 4y ago
    Normally when you say "frames" you mean lenses excluded.
  - londons_explore 4y ago
    Lenses are no longer custom high precision manufacturing... In fact a 50 cent laser pointer has far more far more precise lenses than a pair of glasses. Lenses today tend to be polycarbonate plastic anyway - which means they can be produced rapidly like any other plastic moulding.
    - doikor 4y ago
      For a lot of people you can just take lenses from the production line and cut them to shape and be done but that is not always the case. Personally I always have to wait 2 to 3 weeks to get new glasses done as the lenses have to be made to spec and the lenses alone are around 350€ and no they are not any cheaper at any online retailer that operates here if they even offer to make lenses to my spec.
anshumankmr 4y ago
Damn I bought mine for ₹ 5000 (~$60) and I think I overpaid.
- 2Gkashmiri 4y ago
  why? lenskart gives you dirt cheap glasses
  - anshumankmr 4y ago
    I wanted a good and sturdy metal frame, so I bought it from Titan.
dzhiurgis 4y ago
Zenni is a Chinese company that wouldn’t ship to Lithuania presumably because of Taiwan situation. I’ve got new sunnies from them just few days ago, but still super wary. There must be better.
jusssi 4y ago
How does buying glasses online even work? I have never tried, so I'd expect it to be like buying shoes without trying them on (which I won't do either, based on in-store experience I'd be returning 9 pairs out of 10 for bad fit). I wear glasses for 95% of time, I want to not hate how they feel.
- RosanaAnaDana 4y ago
  you tyoe in your prescription and a week later they appear. if you dont like them, send them back.
  - acomjean 4y ago
    I think you also need to measure the distance between your eyes. The only not supper easy part.
    - femto 4y ago
      Measuring Pupillary Distance (PD, or distance between your pupils) is easy! Here's how: 1) Stand in front of a vertical mirror, making sure you are square to the mirror. 2) Place a horizontal ruler on the surface of the mirror. 3) Close one eye and move your head until the reflection of the centre of your pupil lines up with zero on the ruler. 4) Keeping your head still, open your eye and close the other eye. 5) The Pupillary Distance is the reading on the ruler that lines up with the centre of the reflection of your pupil. 6) If you want to double check it, just swap the opening of your eyes and check that the other eye still sees itself at zero. I use this method whenever I order glasses online and have yet to have a pair of glasses that have any error in the manufacturing. I now only buy glasses online.
      - JKCalhoun 4y ago
        Can't read the ruler, too blurry. ;-)
        tartoran 4y ago
guidoism 4y ago
I paid $11 (shipped) for a pair of glasses from them for use in VR. I didn’t want to screw up my normal glasses. For eleven bucks they aren’t bad at all. Not my style. And I didn’t get any coating so the reflections are bad but man, I can’t see for shit without glasses and I’m happy that if I even fall on hard times I can at least pay for a new pair of glasses.
- doublerabbit 4y ago
  Why not get custom lenses inserts for your VR kit? Its what I did for my Index, not expensive at all. https://vroptician.com https://vroptician.com is where I got mine from.
Semaphor 4y ago
They charge $167 for my transition lenses, last time I got them locally I paid 262€. Per lens O.o I guess I’ll try them.
donutshop 4y ago
Another great site is goggles4u.com
jasonwatkinspdx 4y ago
I've had very good luck ordering from Zenni and Coastal. It is perhaps a bit harder to find a frame style you like, but once you have a frame of reference for say width measurements it's not so bad. They're especially good for cheap prescription sun glasses. I bought a whole stack of them years ago I'm still working through. If I go to the river or where ever and something happens to them I'm out $25 instead of $250. It also helped that the last time I went to a local shop it proved to be a ridiculous experience. I ordered a pair of clear acrylic frames, and for whatever reason when they came in the sales clerk got bored and thought it'd be interesting to use highlighter on the insides of the frame to see what it looked like. But then it wouldn't come off so she just kinda tried to play it off like nothing happened when I picked them up. It was completely absurd. I had to wait another month for them to reorder. So yeah, eyeglasses are now one of those categories of local businesses where I've learned they're basically all scams. Related: it's getting hard to find a cleaner that does alterations in house vs mailing them off to a service. Last couple times I've had to do that it turns into a 4 to 6 week long game of "where did your clothing disappear to and will the store find it this time or tell you to come back in a week yet again." Why is it so many of these simple services increasingly feel like total scams in the US?
- readenough 4y ago
  coastal.com redirects to eyebuydirect.com. Is that the same one you are talking about?
  - SECProto 4y ago
    Eyebuydirect is a Luxottica subsidiary. Coastal became Clearly became a Luxottica subsidiary. I think Zenni is independent for now (couldn't find any evidence to the contrary).
- bombcar 4y ago
  > Why is it so many of these simple services increasingly feel like total scams in the US? Because 'quiet franchising' is a huge money maker for those selling the franchises. For alterations you need to look for someone who does full custom clothing in-house; cleaning services almost all now ship even the cleaning to some central location. I was able to find an actual cobbler nearby; they're still out there but it can be hard to find.
pkphilip 4y ago
You can buy frames with glasses in India for less than Rs.800 (less than $10)
- LorenPechtel 4y ago
  I would doubt the quality. A few years back my wife bought a pair (single vision) in China for about $30--excellent at the time but they turned out not to be durable. (She had taken a tumble and smashed her pair.)
  - pkphilip 4y ago
    They are actually pretty decent quality - not Carl Zeiss lenses though :)
m000 4y ago
For Europe, Ace & Tate [1] are affordable and pretty good quality. Frame + lens go for €110, or €120 to include blue light filter coating. Frankly, unless we're talking about real designer pieces, glasses have been a completely utilitarian/commodity item for the past half century. The real achievement of Luxottica (which also reflects in their brand name) is that they still manage to sell them as premium/craft products. [1] https://www.aceandtate.com/ https://www.aceandtate.com/
Kevguy 4y ago
Zenni is a good choice _if you know your PD_ (pupillary distance) - the distance from nose to center of pupil. 1 mm off will turn your glasses into headache machines. And the phone apps that purport to measure this are universally bad. Get it professionally done at a place that will give you the value. Costco will do so. If you don't want to purchase online Costco is decent price - $180ish for the progressives lenses I just purchased vs $400+ from LensCrafters. Downside of Costco is a limited selection of frames, but worth a look. Also heard good things about Warby Parker but have not purchased lenses from them. Oh, Zenni's progressive lenses have a much narrower distance vision section in the lens than Costco's. So I get progressive glasses at Costco then single reading and computer glasses (for < $40 each) at Zenni.
- shushpanchik 4y ago
  PD is a distance between pupils' centers, not pupil and the nose.
- Terretta 4y ago
  Costco also* has actual "Transitions" lenses while a bunch of the Luxxotica brands don't. * also, meaning, along with Zenni
wildzzz 4y ago
My friend has purchased several pairs from Zenni but the frames kept cracking around the lens even though she only wears them for a couple of hours each day. They'd send her a new frame and it would do the same after a month or two. She didnt really like the metal frames they offered so kept choosing plastic frames. Finally she got fed up with Zenni and purchased slightly more expensive glasses from Warby Parker and has had zero issues since. It definitely feels like a "you get what you paid for" type of story here. Zenni is much cheaper than buying frames from Luxottica but there's definitely some happy medium where you aren't overpaying for glasses but still buying something of comparable quality to the overpriced brands. She used to get Ray-Ban frames while on her parent's insurance but when she got her own, she could get a free years supply of contacts or Luxottica-priced pair of glasses. So now she gets her big supply of contacts from a retailer using insurance and buys a new pair of Warby Parker glasses using HSA money.

by chasil 4y ago

savrajsingh 4y ago

Is that the same co as eyebuydirect.com? That’s who I’ve used

P_I_Staker 4y ago

I definitely think it's cool that they have some pretty freaking cheap frames. That said, I didn't pay more than $100 for my frame. They didn't have that many $100+ glasses at the store. I think the frames that I bought for like $60 (didn't even hit the max, so they were free). Honestly, think they're nicer than most of the frames there. You can buy oakleys for like $40-70. Even the sale ones tend to look better than the ones on zenni. Some of the nicer zenni's are $40+ anyway. Of course it is really cool to see decent frames for $20 or less. I'm going to keep it in mind in the future.

RajT88 4y ago

Indeed. I buy 5 pairs of glasses at a time (cheapest ones I can manage which look OK). 5 at a time is still cheaper than 1/3rd the price of low cost normal glasses. And each of those 5 pairs is half as durable. It is a similarly wild situation where eye exams at Walmart can be cheaper than at a regular eye doctor covered by my insurance.

LorenPechtel 4y ago
Something I have noticed with eye "insurance"--mostly they pay $X for particular things but when you look at what's available it's something like $X *above* what we pay at Costco. In one case I was even able to confirm that the "insurance" isn't actually paying anything. And the only time I've paid over $100 for frames is when I order the ones with a magnetic polarized clip-on that are hard to find. (And I wish I could find something like my old ones where the magnets were on top instead of on the bottom. It was more secure.)
Nition 4y ago
I bought my lone pair of glasses in 2009 and I've replaced the lenses once since then. I wear them every day. Now I'm wondering what everyone else is doing.
- LorenPechtel 4y ago
  Some of us have eyes that don't permit that. From the point I started needed glasses I have only once gone a year on the pair I use for the computer--nothing wrong with the glass, it's just my eyes drift enough that they start giving me headaches. I usually get 2-3 years out of my progressives before they're too far off and need replacement. With an adaptable lens my brain simply automatically compensates as my eyes change, I only need replacement when the infinity goes wrong or as my astigmatism changes too much.
- BridgetJones 4y ago
  FYI, I wear my glasses 16 hours a day (100% of awake time), so I replace them every year, just to get a fresh pair.
- walnutclosefarm 4y ago
  Mine generally last a two years or so, before they are scratched and fogged to the point that my vision is affected. The big culprit is dust - often metal dust, but also hardwood dust - in the shop. Even if you religiously use a non-scratching, micro-fiber wipe (which is hard), just dragging the stuff across the lenses damages them. Another culprit is glue, particularly CA (super) glue but also other types. You may not think it would end up on your glasses, but if you're using much of it, eventually microdroplets end up on your lenses. This does immediate, permanent damage to polycarbonate lenses. My desk glasses, optimized for computer screen distance and never actually leaving my office, on the other hand - easily last a decade with no discernable damage. Because - no significant dust, no organic vapors, no glue, and always wiped with a clean micro-fiber wipe.
  - lobocinza 4y ago
    Rinse with water before wiping.
robertlagrant 4y ago
> It is a similarly wild situation where eye exams at Walmart can be cheaper than at a regular eye doctor covered by my insurance. I don't know the situation, but it's possible that Walmart doesn't make any money on that, or even loses money, to get you into a Walmart store.
- bombcar 4y ago
  It might be, but I suspect not; the optometrist is 'independent' so if Walmart is subsidizing them it's by free rent or something. It's likely that it's mainly volume (and NO insurance paperwork at all) - the one I went to doesn't even take insurance, cash or credit card only.
- bluGill 4y ago
  Unless state law says otherwise the optician is an independent business. Check your local laws, some states don't allow that arrangement. I'm not sure what the business deal is, but it looks to me like the rent the space from walmart and wal-mart does the scheduling. That is the person who does the exam isn't a WalMart employee, but they use WalMart for services. If you watch close you will notice they use a different POS system for paying for your exam from the one you use to buy your glasses.
  - LorenPechtel 4y ago
    Independent doesn't mean that there isn't a profit to Walmart in having it there. I go to one of those Walmart eye docs--she's independent of the store and has her own office staff, but her office has a second door that opens into Walmart's optical center.

smt88 4y ago

> I don't think that I'd ever pay more than $100 for a frame again. $100 sounds like it's ~10x what the price should actually be for simple plastic shapes, and it's probably more than 100x the actual cost to manufacture them.

ajmurmann 4y ago
You don't pay $100 on Zenni for simple glasses. I bought a pair of glasses there with metal frame, anti-glare and anti-fog coating for under $20 with shipping.
tikhonj 4y ago
I assume that's $100 including the lenses—seems like a reasonable price for something that requires custom high-precision manufacturing, although it would be great for the price to come down even further over time. I have a moderately strong prescription (with slight differences for each eye) and I got the best glasses I've ever had from Zenni for $72.90 + tax. Could have been $60 without a presumably overpriced anti-reflective coating. I don't remember how much my glasses cost from traditional sources, but I think it was on the order of $200–$300 after insurance.
- P_I_Staker 4y ago
  Normally when you say "frames" you mean lenses excluded.
- londons_explore 4y ago
  Lenses are no longer custom high precision manufacturing... In fact a 50 cent laser pointer has far more far more precise lenses than a pair of glasses. Lenses today tend to be polycarbonate plastic anyway - which means they can be produced rapidly like any other plastic moulding.
  - doikor 4y ago
    For a lot of people you can just take lenses from the production line and cut them to shape and be done but that is not always the case. Personally I always have to wait 2 to 3 weeks to get new glasses done as the lenses have to be made to spec and the lenses alone are around 350€ and no they are not any cheaper at any online retailer that operates here if they even offer to make lenses to my spec.

anshumankmr 4y ago

Damn I bought mine for ₹ 5000 (~$60) and I think I overpaid.

2Gkashmiri 4y ago
why? lenskart gives you dirt cheap glasses
- anshumankmr 4y ago
  I wanted a good and sturdy metal frame, so I bought it from Titan.

dzhiurgis 4y ago

Zenni is a Chinese company that wouldn’t ship to Lithuania presumably because of Taiwan situation. I’ve got new sunnies from them just few days ago, but still super wary. There must be better.

jusssi 4y ago

How does buying glasses online even work? I have never tried, so I'd expect it to be like buying shoes without trying them on (which I won't do either, based on in-store experience I'd be returning 9 pairs out of 10 for bad fit). I wear glasses for 95% of time, I want to not hate how they feel.

RosanaAnaDana 4y ago
you tyoe in your prescription and a week later they appear. if you dont like them, send them back.
- acomjean 4y ago
  I think you also need to measure the distance between your eyes. The only not supper easy part.
  - femto 4y ago
    Measuring Pupillary Distance (PD, or distance between your pupils) is easy! Here's how: 1) Stand in front of a vertical mirror, making sure you are square to the mirror. 2) Place a horizontal ruler on the surface of the mirror. 3) Close one eye and move your head until the reflection of the centre of your pupil lines up with zero on the ruler. 4) Keeping your head still, open your eye and close the other eye. 5) The Pupillary Distance is the reading on the ruler that lines up with the centre of the reflection of your pupil. 6) If you want to double check it, just swap the opening of your eyes and check that the other eye still sees itself at zero. I use this method whenever I order glasses online and have yet to have a pair of glasses that have any error in the manufacturing. I now only buy glasses online.
    - JKCalhoun 4y ago
      Can't read the ruler, too blurry. ;-)
      - tartoran 4y ago

guidoism 4y ago

I paid $11 (shipped) for a pair of glasses from them for use in VR. I didn’t want to screw up my normal glasses. For eleven bucks they aren’t bad at all. Not my style. And I didn’t get any coating so the reflections are bad but man, I can’t see for shit without glasses and I’m happy that if I even fall on hard times I can at least pay for a new pair of glasses.

doublerabbit 4y ago
Why not get custom lenses inserts for your VR kit? Its what I did for my Index, not expensive at all. https://vroptician.com https://vroptician.com is where I got mine from.

Semaphor 4y ago

They charge $167 for my transition lenses, last time I got them locally I paid 262€. Per lens O.o I guess I’ll try them.

donutshop 4y ago

Another great site is goggles4u.com

jasonwatkinspdx 4y ago

I've had very good luck ordering from Zenni and Coastal. It is perhaps a bit harder to find a frame style you like, but once you have a frame of reference for say width measurements it's not so bad. They're especially good for cheap prescription sun glasses. I bought a whole stack of them years ago I'm still working through. If I go to the river or where ever and something happens to them I'm out $25 instead of $250. It also helped that the last time I went to a local shop it proved to be a ridiculous experience. I ordered a pair of clear acrylic frames, and for whatever reason when they came in the sales clerk got bored and thought it'd be interesting to use highlighter on the insides of the frame to see what it looked like. But then it wouldn't come off so she just kinda tried to play it off like nothing happened when I picked them up. It was completely absurd. I had to wait another month for them to reorder. So yeah, eyeglasses are now one of those categories of local businesses where I've learned they're basically all scams. Related: it's getting hard to find a cleaner that does alterations in house vs mailing them off to a service. Last couple times I've had to do that it turns into a 4 to 6 week long game of "where did your clothing disappear to and will the store find it this time or tell you to come back in a week yet again." Why is it so many of these simple services increasingly feel like total scams in the US?

readenough 4y ago
coastal.com redirects to eyebuydirect.com. Is that the same one you are talking about?
- SECProto 4y ago
  Eyebuydirect is a Luxottica subsidiary. Coastal became Clearly became a Luxottica subsidiary. I think Zenni is independent for now (couldn't find any evidence to the contrary).
bombcar 4y ago
> Why is it so many of these simple services increasingly feel like total scams in the US? Because 'quiet franchising' is a huge money maker for those selling the franchises. For alterations you need to look for someone who does full custom clothing in-house; cleaning services almost all now ship even the cleaning to some central location. I was able to find an actual cobbler nearby; they're still out there but it can be hard to find.

pkphilip 4y ago

You can buy frames with glasses in India for less than Rs.800 (less than $10)

LorenPechtel 4y ago
I would doubt the quality. A few years back my wife bought a pair (single vision) in China for about $30--excellent at the time but they turned out not to be durable. (She had taken a tumble and smashed her pair.)
- pkphilip 4y ago
  They are actually pretty decent quality - not Carl Zeiss lenses though :)

m000 4y ago

For Europe, Ace & Tate [1] are affordable and pretty good quality. Frame + lens go for €110, or €120 to include blue light filter coating. Frankly, unless we're talking about real designer pieces, glasses have been a completely utilitarian/commodity item for the past half century. The real achievement of Luxottica (which also reflects in their brand name) is that they still manage to sell them as premium/craft products. [1] https://www.aceandtate.com/ https://www.aceandtate.com/

Kevguy 4y ago

Zenni is a good choice _if you know your PD_ (pupillary distance) - the distance from nose to center of pupil. 1 mm off will turn your glasses into headache machines. And the phone apps that purport to measure this are universally bad. Get it professionally done at a place that will give you the value. Costco will do so. If you don't want to purchase online Costco is decent price - $180ish for the progressives lenses I just purchased vs $400+ from LensCrafters. Downside of Costco is a limited selection of frames, but worth a look. Also heard good things about Warby Parker but have not purchased lenses from them. Oh, Zenni's progressive lenses have a much narrower distance vision section in the lens than Costco's. So I get progressive glasses at Costco then single reading and computer glasses (for < $40 each) at Zenni.

shushpanchik 4y ago
PD is a distance between pupils' centers, not pupil and the nose.
Terretta 4y ago
Costco also* has actual "Transitions" lenses while a bunch of the Luxxotica brands don't. * also, meaning, along with Zenni

wildzzz 4y ago

My friend has purchased several pairs from Zenni but the frames kept cracking around the lens even though she only wears them for a couple of hours each day. They'd send her a new frame and it would do the same after a month or two. She didnt really like the metal frames they offered so kept choosing plastic frames. Finally she got fed up with Zenni and purchased slightly more expensive glasses from Warby Parker and has had zero issues since. It definitely feels like a "you get what you paid for" type of story here. Zenni is much cheaper than buying frames from Luxottica but there's definitely some happy medium where you aren't overpaying for glasses but still buying something of comparable quality to the overpriced brands. She used to get Ray-Ban frames while on her parent's insurance but when she got her own, she could get a free years supply of contacts or Luxottica-priced pair of glasses. So now she gets her big supply of contacts from a retailer using insurance and buys a new pair of Warby Parker glasses using HSA money.