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Would you use the same argument for groups that justify racism, violence or even murder? No because they are obviously not justifyable. Yes, I agree at some p

by janee 4y ago

Would you use the same argument for groups that justify racism, violence or even murder? No because they are obviously not justifyable. Yes, I agree at some point each person basically draws their own line in the sand when it comes to wrong or right. But I think most people (not just in the west) have agreed in the last few decades to draw their line to exclude making homosexuality illegal. Are you saying it's justified because of religion and circumstance?

trashdigitalnom 4y ago
Most people?
monlockandkey 4y ago
Racism, unjustified violence and murder is wrong because under divine law, it is wrong. The line in the sand is determined by "God", not us humans because theologically it is rational to understand that the best law maker is the creator of humans. Knows what is best for us and what can harm us. In Nazi Germany, most people agreed to persecute Jews. Over the previous years, it unfortunately became the societal norm and morally correct for that time and place. Just because a majority of people over time agree on something does not magically make it objective truth and right. Yes I know religion irks people. From a discussion point of view, it offers objective guidance rather than conjuring up morality from thin air based on whims and desires.
- skissane 4y ago
  > The line in the sand is determined by "God", not us humans because theologically it is rational to understand that the best law maker is the creator of humans. You are espousing divine command theory - something to which many religious believers object - for example, the ultra-conservative Catholic philosopher Edward Feser - https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2011/07/does-morality-depend-on-god.html https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2011/07/does-morality-depen...
- sterlind 4y ago
  ah, but which objective morality should I choose? Talmudic? Sharia? Christian? Karma? Mormon? there's so many standards, I can't make up my mind! should I follow the golden rule? is pork okay? can I have sister wives? what castes can I interact with?
- freejazz 4y ago
  >"Racism, unjustified violence and murder is wrong because under divine law, it is wrong. The line in the sand is determined by "God", not us humans because theologically it is rational to understand that the best law maker is the creator of humans. Knows what is best for us and what can harm us." Are you being serious?

by janee 4y ago

trashdigitalnom 4y ago

Most people?

monlockandkey 4y ago

Racism, unjustified violence and murder is wrong because under divine law, it is wrong. The line in the sand is determined by "God", not us humans because theologically it is rational to understand that the best law maker is the creator of humans. Knows what is best for us and what can harm us. In Nazi Germany, most people agreed to persecute Jews. Over the previous years, it unfortunately became the societal norm and morally correct for that time and place. Just because a majority of people over time agree on something does not magically make it objective truth and right. Yes I know religion irks people. From a discussion point of view, it offers objective guidance rather than conjuring up morality from thin air based on whims and desires.

skissane 4y ago
> The line in the sand is determined by "God", not us humans because theologically it is rational to understand that the best law maker is the creator of humans. You are espousing divine command theory - something to which many religious believers object - for example, the ultra-conservative Catholic philosopher Edward Feser - https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2011/07/does-morality-depend-on-god.html https://edwardfeser.blogspot.com/2011/07/does-morality-depen...
sterlind 4y ago
ah, but which objective morality should I choose? Talmudic? Sharia? Christian? Karma? Mormon? there's so many standards, I can't make up my mind! should I follow the golden rule? is pork okay? can I have sister wives? what castes can I interact with?
freejazz 4y ago
>"Racism, unjustified violence and murder is wrong because under divine law, it is wrong. The line in the sand is determined by "God", not us humans because theologically it is rational to understand that the best law maker is the creator of humans. Knows what is best for us and what can harm us." Are you being serious?