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From your link the problem seems to be that some people want voter ID legislation, not the lack of IDs.
by SargeDebian 4y ago
From your link the problem seems to be that some people want voter ID legislation, not the lack of IDs.
- geysersam 4y ago1. Voter ID Laws Deprive Many Americans of the Right to Vote Millions of Americans Lack ID. 11% of U.S. citizens – or more than 21 million Americans – do not have government-issued photo identification. 2. Obtaining ID Costs Money. Even if ID is offered for free, voters must incur numerous costs (such as paying for birth certificates) to apply for a government-issued ID. Underlying documents required to obtain ID cost money, a significant expense for lower-income Americans. The combined cost of document fees, travel expenses and waiting time are estimated to range from $75 to $175.2 The travel required is often a major burden on people with disabilities, the elderly, or those in rural areas without access to a car or public transportation. In Texas, some people in rural areas must travel approximately 170 miles to reach the nearest ID office. 3. Voter ID Laws Reduce Voter Turnout. A 2014 GAO study found that strict photo ID laws reduce turnout by 2-3 percentage points, which can translate into tens of thousands of votes lost in a single state.
- oefrha 4y agoI always found it hilarious that while significantly poorer countries can have working national ID systems, in the U.S. it’s somehow too expensive to give 10% of people any form of ID at all. Like, have you considered a tiny slice of the trillions of stimulus, or military, or whatever money printed can be dedicated to solving this problem? In fact I bet EM’s Twitter acquisition money can solve this problem five times over. But no, we have to hear this “it doesn’t work here” excuse over and over. What a joke.
- cudgy 4y agoDoesn’t matter. People will lose their national id’s anyway and whiners would complain that the system is unfair because 11% of people lose their id’s and are unable to get a replacement. They will claim that getting a replacement is an unfair burden; some of these people cannot get public transportation from their cave in the middle of the Texas desert.
- cudgy 4y agoThe statistics are nonsense and do not represent a significant population. First of all, way beyond 11% of the population would be outside of the voting age, and/or unable to or unwilling to vote anyway. Second, how could these people even rent or own a property without an ID or otherwise function in society? You cannot even get a library card, cash a check, get a bank account, or receive government assistance without an id. How are they able to pay any bills or receive income? Does cash sprinkle from the sky? Very few actual, able, or potential voters fit within this extremely small group. Third, if a citizen is unable or unwilling to travel a short distance to obtain a simple id for $25 in order to ensure basic participation in society, are they likely even able to understand for whom or what they are even voting? Also, if they cannot travel or afford to travel to get an id, how are they even able to travel in order to vote, get groceries, get medical care, or anything else for that matter? Fourth, if a citizen has no id, how can you know they are even a citizen that is able to vote in the first place?
- dsfyu404ed 4y ago>Second, how could these people even rent or own a property without an ID or otherwise function in society? You cannot even get a library card, cash a check, get a bank account, or receive government assistance without an id They can't. It's a red herring that gets tossed around as an in-group signaling mechanism by those who have never lived near the margin and therefore don't realize how much more often you need to ID yourself when you're "down there" so to speak.