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> after Putin retires He ain't retiring. The only way he is leaving the Kremlin is in a casket.
by starik36 4y ago
> after Putin retires
He ain't retiring. The only way he is leaving the Kremlin is in a casket.
- bpodgursky 4y agoI guess I should say... after Putin is gone, one way or another. He's 70, it's not going to be forever.
- Beltalowda 4y agoHe could potentially still hold power for decades to come, into his 90s. So forever? No, obviously not. But we might have to look at him for a long time.
- hdjjhhvvhga 4y agoWell, life expectancy for Russian males is below 70 - of course Putin has the best medical care, but I doubt steroids etc. can keep him for too long.
- Beltalowda 4y agoAverage life expectancy in Zimbabwe is about 62. Mugabe lived to be 95.
- actionfromafar 4y agoImplied. There are many ways to “retire” in Russia.
- MichaelCollins 4y agoI'm still betting on a premature death, but never say never. Castro retired.
- smt88 4y agoCastro was sick to the point of being unable to function, right?
- MichaelCollins 4y agoThat's my understanding. I think Putin would probably get killed if he found himself similarly weakened, but that's not certain. Assuming he's not killed, he'll get old and weak too eventually.
- coldtea 4y ago
- uni_rule 4y agoOr his opponent who couldn't run up a flight of stairs without soiling his depends. Fucking ancient bastards.
- SideburnsOfDoom 4y ago> I'm still betting on a premature death Mr Putin is 70 years old, and reports of his health issues are circulating. So I think that it's too late for "premature" death.
- MichaelCollins 4y agoI'm talking about homicide. An assassination or summary execution, like Ceaușescu.
- Beltalowda 4y agoA number of dictators ending up being dethroned (without a full-blown civil war): Robert Mugabe (already in his 90s though), Suharto, Pol Pot, Pinochet, a bunch of others whose names escape me at the moment. I'd be interesting to gather some data on this, but I suspect it's more common that casual perception might indicate. One possible reason for the mysterious Russian Modified Gravity that causes people to fall to their deaths might be that Putin's position is not as secure as he might like us to think. He doesn't even need to be assassinated: once he's no longer in a position to order around force, what is he going to do? Some of the above lived for decades after being deposed.
- danenania 4y agoI'm not sure why everyone assumes this. It seems like he'd have much more ability to shape the future of Russia and protect those close to him if he chooses a successor and oversees the succession. He could also ensure better conditions for himself (i.e. not being executed) in case he ends up being unable to continue ruling due to sickness/old age.
- UncleOxidant 4y agoDo we have any examples of this actually happening in the Soviet times until now? He's going to be worried about the groomed successor doing him in earlier than natural death. That paranoia is what keeps them from doing what you suggest.
- bpodgursky 4y agoYeltsin, Gorbachev, and Khrushchev all died peacefully.
- UncleOxidant 4y agoYes, but did they groom a successor? Yeltsin did (Putin). Krushchev - not sure, I think there was a bit of a tussle. Gorbachev was probably too young to be thinking about a successsor - and he was essentially shutting down the Soviet Union.
- starik36 4y agoKhrushchev was overthrown. Gorbachev was basically too. After the hardliners’ coup attempt he was basically a lame duck.
- bpodgursky 4y agoYeah I think casual observers miss the fundamental political apathy of most Russians. Overthrown leaders don't have a power base; mobs aren't going to turn out to return a deposed leader to power. Once they are irrelevant, they're going to stay that way, and everyone knows it.