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I think the people at Microsoft have concluded that only suckers and dups are still using Windows. Young folks use their phones, neohipsters use Macs, and tech

I think the people at Microsoft have concluded that only suckers and dups are still using Windows. Young folks use their phones, neohipsters use Macs, and techbros use Linux. For the leftovers still on Windows, Microsoft is serving up Edge browser toolbar scams, taskbar "news" ads, lock screen ads for whatever it is that Bing is doing. Elon Musk should buy Microsoft so it can die too.

joemazerino 4y ago
Linux is insecure OOB and generally misconfigured by it's users. Windows remains the defacto choice for bros who want security.
- _Algernon_ 4y ago
  lol
- dustymcp 4y ago
  That is a stretch lol
- Woeps 4y ago
  I'm ignoring the first part of your sentence because meh. However "Windows remains the defacto choice for bros who want security". I'm genuinely curious about this part of the statement. Could you please elaborate
  - lpcvoid 4y ago
    I dislike Windows the same as everybody on here, but they do a lot of security engineering such as virtualization based security, for example their hypervisor enforced code integrity stuff.
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  Stockholm syndrom, amiright? No seriously.. Windows has a continuous stream of security vulnerabilities. Linux has cryptsetup, dm-verity, secure boot signing, TPM, proper sandboxing, QEMU, etc.
rdevsrex 4y ago
That last line was kinda surprising to hear. Not a big Elon fan, but generally I think you at least wait a quarter to see if they've run it into the ground or not.
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  I remember saying the same about Donald Trump. All these people kept warning me, and although I didn't vote for him... I said, let's give him a chance. I really wish I could go back in time and take their warnings more seriously.
warent 4y ago
I can't tell if you're joking so I'll assume not. Windows is still by far the de facto gaming OS. Mac and Linux cannot handle games like Windows can.
- cjbgkagh 4y ago
  I’m getting constant stuttering in Win11 and have tried just about everything to fix it. They have this weird memory compaction thing running, and constant virus scans, and I don’t know what else. It’s been a total nightmare and for now I’ve quit gaming.
- HomePhone 4y ago
  Not to mention the de facto OS in multiple industries.
- thfuran 4y ago
  Consoles and iOS/Android are by far the dominant gaming OSes. PC gaming isn't even all that huge slice of video gaming, let alone computer usage as a whole.
  - gabelschlager 4y ago
    It's good to keep in mind that games like League of Legends alone have over 100 million monthly players. While I agree that mobile is far bigger (especially thanks to Asian countries), PC's slice is too big to ignore. And just going by Steam numbers, seems to be actively growing each year.
- lpcvoid 4y ago
  There are very few games I cannot play on my Linux/Steam box with AMD hardware. Everything just works out of the box, I just click play.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
    Good for you? Let me know when DCS runs on Linux consistently without issue. Or, like, literally any VR system.
ahelwer 4y ago
This is unfortunately true and a reason I am finally installing linux at this very moment. The worst were those monthly post-login series of screens trying to override my consent for various options so some PM at Microsoft could hit their quarterly KPIs (because they Measure What Matters) followed by a smarmy screen at the end saying the computer was now "all yours" (so my own home computer I've had for 8 years isn't mine?). It was just such a gross, pushy thing to have respect for my consent clearly trashed in that way. I deserve not to be abused in this way by my own computer I use every day. I've decided to really dive deep in linux. This is a rest-of-my-life thing now. I'm going through the Arch install process, really enjoying reading the wiki and enabling the services and fiddling with all the options. Windows treated me poorly enough that I no longer care about things "just working". I need to take this stuff into my own hands.
cjbgkagh 4y ago
I work with a few big companies and there seems to be a general push to put everything in the browser as part of the plan to get rid of windows. Plus the browser acts like a thin client for those wanting to get rid of Citrix. Microsoft isn’t helping the matters by completely failing at building new UI toolkits. Internally Azure is seen as the future, but they burned a lot of their biggest customers already by overselling capacity to them in three year contracts. Those contracts are not getting renewed at the same level. I’ve never before seen a company sabotage itself so badly.
scantis 4y ago
That is not true, Microsoft is still widely regarded as the industry standard. It doesn't matter how horrific their products are or become. I have so many measurement devices that run some form of windows on them and are impossible to port to anything else. I still run windows XP and 7 in private networks for some machines and still have to use windows 95 to rewrite some 8bit routines to floppy to run some ancient controllers. Not because I want to, but because I have to. Windows 11 is a giant problem, as it uses ridiculous amounts of ram. Around 2025 we will not be allowed to have win10 on the network. So this is serious question for some, is windows 11 any good with privacy? Well I certainly hope so, as I'm not in the position where I have any choice.
booleandilemma 4y ago
I think the people at Microsoft have concluded that only suckers and dups are still using Windows. I really hope that's not true. I'm a programmer and I still prefer Windows. The UI is nicer than macOS, and the UX is smoother than Linux. Every now and then I try to install Ubuntu and find that it still doesn't work well with my headphones, or it randomly disconnects from my wifi. Efforts like the Windows Terminal and WSL lead me to believe that you're wrong.

joemazerino 4y ago

Linux is insecure OOB and generally misconfigured by it's users. Windows remains the defacto choice for bros who want security.

_Algernon_ 4y ago
lol
dustymcp 4y ago
That is a stretch lol
Woeps 4y ago
I'm ignoring the first part of your sentence because meh. However "Windows remains the defacto choice for bros who want security". I'm genuinely curious about this part of the statement. Could you please elaborate
- lpcvoid 4y ago
  I dislike Windows the same as everybody on here, but they do a lot of security engineering such as virtualization based security, for example their hypervisor enforced code integrity stuff.
encryptluks2 4y ago
Stockholm syndrom, amiright? No seriously.. Windows has a continuous stream of security vulnerabilities. Linux has cryptsetup, dm-verity, secure boot signing, TPM, proper sandboxing, QEMU, etc.

rdevsrex 4y ago

That last line was kinda surprising to hear. Not a big Elon fan, but generally I think you at least wait a quarter to see if they've run it into the ground or not.

encryptluks2 4y ago
I remember saying the same about Donald Trump. All these people kept warning me, and although I didn't vote for him... I said, let's give him a chance. I really wish I could go back in time and take their warnings more seriously.

warent 4y ago

I can't tell if you're joking so I'll assume not. Windows is still by far the de facto gaming OS. Mac and Linux cannot handle games like Windows can.

cjbgkagh 4y ago
I’m getting constant stuttering in Win11 and have tried just about everything to fix it. They have this weird memory compaction thing running, and constant virus scans, and I don’t know what else. It’s been a total nightmare and for now I’ve quit gaming.
HomePhone 4y ago
Not to mention the de facto OS in multiple industries.
thfuran 4y ago
Consoles and iOS/Android are by far the dominant gaming OSes. PC gaming isn't even all that huge slice of video gaming, let alone computer usage as a whole.
- gabelschlager 4y ago
  It's good to keep in mind that games like League of Legends alone have over 100 million monthly players. While I agree that mobile is far bigger (especially thanks to Asian countries), PC's slice is too big to ignore. And just going by Steam numbers, seems to be actively growing each year.
lpcvoid 4y ago
There are very few games I cannot play on my Linux/Steam box with AMD hardware. Everything just works out of the box, I just click play.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 4y ago
  Good for you? Let me know when DCS runs on Linux consistently without issue. Or, like, literally any VR system.

ahelwer 4y ago

This is unfortunately true and a reason I am finally installing linux at this very moment. The worst were those monthly post-login series of screens trying to override my consent for various options so some PM at Microsoft could hit their quarterly KPIs (because they Measure What Matters) followed by a smarmy screen at the end saying the computer was now "all yours" (so my own home computer I've had for 8 years isn't mine?). It was just such a gross, pushy thing to have respect for my consent clearly trashed in that way. I deserve not to be abused in this way by my own computer I use every day. I've decided to really dive deep in linux. This is a rest-of-my-life thing now. I'm going through the Arch install process, really enjoying reading the wiki and enabling the services and fiddling with all the options. Windows treated me poorly enough that I no longer care about things "just working". I need to take this stuff into my own hands.

cjbgkagh 4y ago

I work with a few big companies and there seems to be a general push to put everything in the browser as part of the plan to get rid of windows. Plus the browser acts like a thin client for those wanting to get rid of Citrix. Microsoft isn’t helping the matters by completely failing at building new UI toolkits. Internally Azure is seen as the future, but they burned a lot of their biggest customers already by overselling capacity to them in three year contracts. Those contracts are not getting renewed at the same level. I’ve never before seen a company sabotage itself so badly.

scantis 4y ago

That is not true, Microsoft is still widely regarded as the industry standard. It doesn't matter how horrific their products are or become. I have so many measurement devices that run some form of windows on them and are impossible to port to anything else. I still run windows XP and 7 in private networks for some machines and still have to use windows 95 to rewrite some 8bit routines to floppy to run some ancient controllers. Not because I want to, but because I have to. Windows 11 is a giant problem, as it uses ridiculous amounts of ram. Around 2025 we will not be allowed to have win10 on the network. So this is serious question for some, is windows 11 any good with privacy? Well I certainly hope so, as I'm not in the position where I have any choice.

booleandilemma 4y ago

I think the people at Microsoft have concluded that only suckers and dups are still using Windows. I really hope that's not true. I'm a programmer and I still prefer Windows. The UI is nicer than macOS, and the UX is smoother than Linux. Every now and then I try to install Ubuntu and find that it still doesn't work well with my headphones, or it randomly disconnects from my wifi. Efforts like the Windows Terminal and WSL lead me to believe that you're wrong.