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I am 14 and haven't interacted with TikTok once. The whole thing disgusts me and I find it funny that a company that's all cozy with the CCP is controlling the
by _chu1 4y ago
I am 14 and haven't interacted with TikTok once. The whole thing disgusts me and I find it funny that a company that's all cozy with the CCP is controlling the algorithm feeding kids around the world shit entertainment and lies.
- UltraViolence 4y agoAnd how exactly does that differ from Facebook?
- hammock 4y agoUnless you believe in the deep state, the difference is that we voted/can vote for the people in power who regulate Facebook, here in the US.
- aaomidi 4y agoWe can regulate TikTok too. For them to sell ads in the US, they are under US jurisdiction.
- UltraViolence 4y agoThey ignore U.S. laws. I even believe their transfer of user data to Oracle is an inside company joke. It's always "pending" and the project never finishes. In the meantime they pilfer our personal data and use it to their advantage.
- aaomidi 4y agoThen enforce the laws and start fining them for non compliance.
- UltraViolence 4y agoI have a better idea: how about we ban them from the Western world! They're obviously up to no good and they ignore our laws. We're always two steps behind as they keep promising compliance yet they never do. Once we find them out they come up with excuses and promise they'll behave next time. Like I said, I believe they're silently making fun of us. Having us run a rat race while they just keep on pilfering our personal info. Ban TikTok!!
- aaomidi 4y agoI'm all for banning TikTok if we apply the same rules to our own companies. If collecting personal info is bad, then let's ban that rather than pick and choose our companies?
- ladzoppelin 4y agoI read its different for Chinese kids on TikTok as the the platform does not allow the "destructive" content and garbage like it does in other countries. From what I can tell Facebook exploits everybody equally. Both are wrong but if true I feel criticism is merited.
- jacooper 4y agoDo we have a confirmation of this? It was said on a random podcast and then everyone took it as truth.
- collegeburner 4y agoi've literally used the chinese version briefly and have friends from there. it's facts. all good positive influences there, no dancing thots and dph challenges.
- jacooper 4y agoOK but that's what you friends say. I want an actual source, an actual study.
- collegeburner 4y agono. lemme flip the burden of proof: the CCP is a known hostile actor against our nation. i want proof that they're not doing something shady before we let them play with the minds of kids. > I want an actual source, an actual study.
- jacooper 4y agoThis could be applied to the US too from the perspective of all the countries it destroyed. So no I dont buy the CCP is bad and the US is good.
- collegeburner 4y ago
- _chu1 4y agoKids my age don't use Facebook, and either way it's really not
- dijit 4y ago
- blisterpeanuts 4y agoThe situation is a lot different. The U.S. and China are not similar politically and socially, at least not yet. As a case in point, note that U.S. companies like Facebook, Twitter, Google Search, and Youtube are blocked in China, whereas people in the U.S. (and elsewhere) are free to access services like WeChat and Baidu. What's more, Europeans are free to develop their own social media platforms, and in fact I wonder why they haven't been more successful to date; there's plenty of software talent and cultural depth in Europe. It would be great to see more competition.
- dijit 4y agoYour comment frustrates me a lot, especially the second part. Not because you're wrong, but because any competition that comes up in Europe gets bought by the giants to the west, usually before they're globally known though sometimes not; I'm sure it's not entirely unknown that Skype was purchased by Microsoft at least, that was a pretty big player at the time. In terms of general tech companies there's loads, including Shazam, iZettle, Momondo, Gamesparks, spider.io, Mojang, Apiary, Sparrow etc;etc; 52 by Apple/MS/Google in the years 2011-2016. I'm honestly surprised Spotify remains. A European social network has a really high barrier to entry compared to the US ones, sure, but all that meets them if they're successful is an acquisition- or at least that does seem to be the case with most European tech startups. To your first point: I think the closeness with the CCP and closedness of the country would be fine points, my general feeling is that the US is a lot more clandestine with their methods (Snowden wiretapping of google revelations notwithstanding: most orders in the US come with stipulations that you're not allowed to speak of them). Regarding the "openness", I feel like the US is battling it with Sinophobia, I mean, based on the former Presidents words at least; rather than an outright ban as the Chinese are doing. What do you think?
- j0hnyl 4y agoSpoiler Alert: All governments capable of collecting data are doing so.
- tenebrisalietum 4y agoYou can't judge something you haven't tried.
- googlryas 4y agoI bet you view murder as a negative.
- skhm 4y agoThe tone here makes this sound like an insult, I had to do a double-take. Online discourse is hard!
- tenebrisalietum 4y agoMurder has irreversible side effects. TikTok does not.
- berrynice 4y ago
- googlryas 4y agoIrreversible side effects wasn't part of the original comment. Also, any kind of addiction may have essentially irreversible side effects for those who are susceptible.
- datavirtue 4y agoTikTok is directed at people who's minds are still developing (on purpose). It most certainly does have irreversible effects.