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Luckey's suicide device is indeed disturbing, but this scenario is just outlandish sci-fi. Why jump through all the technical hoops when you can pay a goon to

by Tronno 4y ago

Luckey's suicide device is indeed disturbing, but this scenario is just outlandish sci-fi. Why jump through all the technical hoops when you can pay a goon to pull a trigger? Historically, this has already happened a million times.

imtringued 4y ago
You don't have to pay the goon if he wears that.
Brian_K_White 4y ago
It's not about the death it's about the slavery. Yoking a human brain to perform tasks that only a human can get right, but not having to pay them, a basically get to use them like software. About the only thing keeping this from becoming a reality is it probably costs more in labor to maintain the bodies than to just have desperate people perform the same tasks for extremely low pay. Then again, Palmmer's current company builds automated weapons. Imagine a missile guided by an on-board human. Not remote, on-board. The Japanese did manage to employ Kamikaze's but generally it would be pretty hard to source a supply of willing and trained volunteers for that. But you could stick someone in this, run them through training games more or less perpetually, until one day it's not a game and the victim simply does their usual job unaware they are a human bullet this time. Still probably impractical because of the life support, but maybe not. You don't need any more life support than an ordinary jet fighter for a short one-way trip, and what was impractical yesterday is no longer impractical tomorrow. It should be thought about, because it can actually be done roght now, which means someone somewhere will do it, or already has.
- Tronno 4y ago
  Imprisonment and forced labor already exist. Remote control weapons already exist. Nobody is wearing explosive collars. You should think about solving these problems in the real world, not a fantasy cyberpunk dystopia.
  - autoexec 4y ago
    > Nobody is wearing explosive collars. They've been used repeatedly in real life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Douglas_Wells https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Douglas_Wells is probably the most famous example, but they've been used even more recently by ISIS
  - Brian_K_White 4y ago
    Consciousness in a box used as an appliance is no worse than ordinary slavery eh? Moron.

by Tronno 4y ago

imtringued 4y ago

You don't have to pay the goon if he wears that.

Brian_K_White 4y ago

It's not about the death it's about the slavery. Yoking a human brain to perform tasks that only a human can get right, but not having to pay them, a basically get to use them like software. About the only thing keeping this from becoming a reality is it probably costs more in labor to maintain the bodies than to just have desperate people perform the same tasks for extremely low pay. Then again, Palmmer's current company builds automated weapons. Imagine a missile guided by an on-board human. Not remote, on-board. The Japanese did manage to employ Kamikaze's but generally it would be pretty hard to source a supply of willing and trained volunteers for that. But you could stick someone in this, run them through training games more or less perpetually, until one day it's not a game and the victim simply does their usual job unaware they are a human bullet this time. Still probably impractical because of the life support, but maybe not. You don't need any more life support than an ordinary jet fighter for a short one-way trip, and what was impractical yesterday is no longer impractical tomorrow. It should be thought about, because it can actually be done roght now, which means someone somewhere will do it, or already has.

Tronno 4y ago
Imprisonment and forced labor already exist. Remote control weapons already exist. Nobody is wearing explosive collars. You should think about solving these problems in the real world, not a fantasy cyberpunk dystopia.
- autoexec 4y ago
  > Nobody is wearing explosive collars. They've been used repeatedly in real life. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Douglas_Wells https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Brian_Douglas_Wells is probably the most famous example, but they've been used even more recently by ISIS
- Brian_K_White 4y ago
  Consciousness in a box used as an appliance is no worse than ordinary slavery eh? Moron.