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> It’s safer to delay upgrading This is my policy for most of my software unless there's some kind of critical exploit. Software updates have been the cause of

> It’s safer to delay upgrading This is my policy for most of my software unless there's some kind of critical exploit. Software updates have been the cause of many breakages for me, but I have not (yet) been affected by running out-of-date software (to my knowledge).

donio 4y ago
The only software I look forward to upgrading is Emacs. Everything else fills me with dread about what will break or what functionality will be lost this time.
LoganDark 4y ago
I avoid updating my software like the plague. Actually, the reason I switched to Firefox is because Chrome's updater snuck past my firewall. That is literally the only reason why. I am considering switching back after seeing how terrible Firefox is. For example, it has a memory leak that causes a crash after 3-4 days of uptime.
- melvyn2 4y ago
  I wonder if just maybe an update might… fix a bug?
  - LoganDark 4y ago
    I've been looking for evidence that the bug's been fixed, but even upon bringing up the issue with Mozilla engineers, all they have to say is "turn overcommit back on, we don't support your configuration". Excuse me, Mozilla? Firefox should not be collecting 20-30 gigabytes of committed memory in the first place. They must be high or something.
  - allarm 4y ago
    A recent Firefox update had completely cleaned up all configuration and plugins that I had installed. I wouldn’t go back to Chrome over this, but it wasn’t a minor issue for me and it definitely made me more reluctant to the future updates.
- californical 4y ago
  I have ~weeks of uptime on Firefox MacOS with two separate laptops, and no memory issues whatsoever. So likely just a bug with something on your version/system (edit: check your plugins too)
  - LoganDark 4y ago
    macOS has overcommit and memory compression, so you wouldn't notice even if your Firefox did have a leak. macOS is cool that way, but Windows isn't. FWIW, I would still be using macOS... if I had any choice.

donio 4y ago

The only software I look forward to upgrading is Emacs. Everything else fills me with dread about what will break or what functionality will be lost this time.

LoganDark 4y ago

I avoid updating my software like the plague. Actually, the reason I switched to Firefox is because Chrome's updater snuck past my firewall. That is literally the only reason why. I am considering switching back after seeing how terrible Firefox is. For example, it has a memory leak that causes a crash after 3-4 days of uptime.

melvyn2 4y ago
I wonder if just maybe an update might… fix a bug?
- LoganDark 4y ago
  I've been looking for evidence that the bug's been fixed, but even upon bringing up the issue with Mozilla engineers, all they have to say is "turn overcommit back on, we don't support your configuration". Excuse me, Mozilla? Firefox should not be collecting 20-30 gigabytes of committed memory in the first place. They must be high or something.
- allarm 4y ago
  A recent Firefox update had completely cleaned up all configuration and plugins that I had installed. I wouldn’t go back to Chrome over this, but it wasn’t a minor issue for me and it definitely made me more reluctant to the future updates.
californical 4y ago
I have ~weeks of uptime on Firefox MacOS with two separate laptops, and no memory issues whatsoever. So likely just a bug with something on your version/system (edit: check your plugins too)
- LoganDark 4y ago
  macOS has overcommit and memory compression, so you wouldn't notice even if your Firefox did have a leak. macOS is cool that way, but Windows isn't. FWIW, I would still be using macOS... if I had any choice.