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It's federation. You also wouldn't expect every citizen to get an @europarl.europa.eu e-mail-adress. The platform is decentralised by design, so just by joining

by mqus 4y ago

It's federation. You also wouldn't expect every citizen to get an @europarl.europa.eu e-mail-adress. The platform is decentralised by design, so just by joining, the EU is contributing to "providing a platform" imho.

amadeuspagel 4y ago
I don't see why the EU shouldn't give every citizen an @europa.eu email address.
- jimkleiber 4y ago
  I've often hoped the US would do this as well. Postal addresses are dependent on having a physical address—home, apartment, etc. Would love if people could habe a digital address that were not dependent on paying rent but citizenship.
- lrem 4y ago
  For the same reason not every US citizen is entitled to a .gov address?
  - amadeuspagel 4y ago
    .gov is intended to signify offical US government websites. .eu domains can be registered by anyone.
    - arlort 4y ago
      .europa.eu is the closest equivalent to .gov It's the base url used by all EU institutions
      - capableweb 4y ago
        europa.eu is a domain, .eu is the TLD. There is no TLD equivalent of .gov for Europe. European agencies use bunch of different domains, not all of them are a subdomain under europa.eu, although many of them are under that one. You can see some examples of organizations/agencies that are not here: https://european-union.europa.eu/institutions-law-budget/institutions-and-bodies/institutions-and-bodies-profiles_en https://european-union.europa.eu/institutions-law-budget/ins...
        arlort 4y ago
        > There is no TLD equivalent of .gov for Europe Which is why I said: > is the closest equivalent Also it's a distinction without a difference in the context of the discussion, a tld is just another kind of domain. In the same way .gov subdomains are reserved for US government and signify to the users that the content of the page has official value subdomains of .europa.eu are reserved for EU institutions and agencies The same way it'd not be smart for the US government to give out john.smith@gov email addresses it'd not be particularly clever for the EU to give out francois.martin@europa.eu And no, all official agencies and institutions use .europa.eu subdomains, the only exception in that page seem to be other bodies such as research groups which are not official branches of the EU
    - googlryas 4y ago
      Then make a citizen.eu site or something like that and hand out addresses!
- orwin 4y ago
  For information, this idea was actually talked about during a h2020 meeting, but discarded (probably because free market stuff)
- franga2000 4y ago
  I agree it would be neat to give emails to EU citizens and a "fediverse" account would be a cool addition to that, but that's a completely different situation to the launch discussed here. A government-only ActivityPub server is part of essential G2C communication, not just another nice-to-have service the EU provides.
- zajio1am 4y ago
  Because there is no reason to do so? Providing e-mail address is service successfully provided by private sector, no need to use public money to destroy competition in private sector and centralise a service to one provider. Most of EU engagement in digital services is to encourage market sector, not replace it with a public monopoly (see e.g. eIDAS).
- Xylakant 4y ago
  How would you resolve the local name part? Do I get to claim xylakant@mail.europa.eu or is there a dispute process? hans.mueller@mail.europa.eu is going to be contentious.
- rsynnott 4y ago
  I mean, I think there'd be considerable risk to that. You'd in effect be giving the government direct access to a terrifying amount of personal information.
- talideon 4y ago
  Because that is an offical EU domain. Email coming from that domain is official EU correspondance. If the EU wanted to run a mail system available to all EU citizens, it would make more sense to register "civitas.eu" or some similar domain and provide it there.

by mqus 4y ago

amadeuspagel 4y ago

I don't see why the EU shouldn't give every citizen an @europa.eu email address.

jimkleiber 4y ago
I've often hoped the US would do this as well. Postal addresses are dependent on having a physical address—home, apartment, etc. Would love if people could habe a digital address that were not dependent on paying rent but citizenship.
lrem 4y ago
For the same reason not every US citizen is entitled to a .gov address?
- amadeuspagel 4y ago
  .gov is intended to signify offical US government websites. .eu domains can be registered by anyone.
  - arlort 4y ago
    .europa.eu is the closest equivalent to .gov It's the base url used by all EU institutions
    - capableweb 4y ago
      europa.eu is a domain, .eu is the TLD. There is no TLD equivalent of .gov for Europe. European agencies use bunch of different domains, not all of them are a subdomain under europa.eu, although many of them are under that one. You can see some examples of organizations/agencies that are not here: https://european-union.europa.eu/institutions-law-budget/institutions-and-bodies/institutions-and-bodies-profiles_en https://european-union.europa.eu/institutions-law-budget/ins...
      - arlort 4y ago
        > There is no TLD equivalent of .gov for Europe Which is why I said: > is the closest equivalent Also it's a distinction without a difference in the context of the discussion, a tld is just another kind of domain. In the same way .gov subdomains are reserved for US government and signify to the users that the content of the page has official value subdomains of .europa.eu are reserved for EU institutions and agencies The same way it'd not be smart for the US government to give out john.smith@gov email addresses it'd not be particularly clever for the EU to give out francois.martin@europa.eu And no, all official agencies and institutions use .europa.eu subdomains, the only exception in that page seem to be other bodies such as research groups which are not official branches of the EU
  - googlryas 4y ago
    Then make a citizen.eu site or something like that and hand out addresses!
orwin 4y ago
For information, this idea was actually talked about during a h2020 meeting, but discarded (probably because free market stuff)
franga2000 4y ago
I agree it would be neat to give emails to EU citizens and a "fediverse" account would be a cool addition to that, but that's a completely different situation to the launch discussed here. A government-only ActivityPub server is part of essential G2C communication, not just another nice-to-have service the EU provides.
zajio1am 4y ago
Because there is no reason to do so? Providing e-mail address is service successfully provided by private sector, no need to use public money to destroy competition in private sector and centralise a service to one provider. Most of EU engagement in digital services is to encourage market sector, not replace it with a public monopoly (see e.g. eIDAS).
Xylakant 4y ago
How would you resolve the local name part? Do I get to claim xylakant@mail.europa.eu or is there a dispute process? hans.mueller@mail.europa.eu is going to be contentious.
rsynnott 4y ago
I mean, I think there'd be considerable risk to that. You'd in effect be giving the government direct access to a terrifying amount of personal information.
talideon 4y ago
Because that is an offical EU domain. Email coming from that domain is official EU correspondance. If the EU wanted to run a mail system available to all EU citizens, it would make more sense to register "civitas.eu" or some similar domain and provide it there.