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I don't even understand how they can sleep at work while the company is laying off half of its employees

by poulpy123 4y ago

lultimouomo 4y ago
Maybe they're trying to keep their job?
- masklinn 4y ago
  Pretty much, musk has put everyone on crunch for his whims.
- amrocha 4y ago
  They should try to get fired, get severance and look for something else
- IshKebab 4y ago
  Why would you want to keep your job in an environment like that though? The only thing I can think is there will be a lot of openings above you... Or you're on an H1B visa? Or maybe you're being vastly overpaid.
- kergonath 4y ago
  It still does not make any sense from a management perspective. They’re selecting slaves, not high performers.
smt88 4y ago
The implication is that they're working so many hours, it makes more sense to sleep in the office than to bother going home. It's sad and repulsive that there are people with such a cultish devotion to capitalism that they admire this behavior and culture.
- subradios 4y ago
  It's not a cultists devotion. It's business. Your competitor can exceed you if you aren't willing to pull all nighters. Well run companies do all nighters, and aren't so cultishly devoted to a "work life balance" that implies 4 hour workdays on slack. Well run companies also understand sustainability. Max effort will need to be demanded to exceed current capacity, but it is important not to rely on it as a crutch to get past poor design, poor process, or other management misfires. This is something games are seeing now, most of the industry luminaries cut their teeth in an era where the whole game fit on one disk. They assume that the weekend long anger coding to bash that one bug is the same as what they're asking their company to do.
  - SturgeonsLaw 4y ago
    > Well run companies do all nighters Well run companies have adequate resourcing so that staff don't need to work all night
    - subradios 4y ago
      Adequate resourcing is irrelevant. Think of the holidays for retail - do you pay 2 to 3x the employees year round to support the November to December shopping season? If you did that, you would be very silly. Conditions will frequently demand that an "adequately resourced" company has to run overtime to take advantage of an opportunity, beat a competitor to a new feature, or other such situations. This happens all the time.
  - hazaskull 4y ago
    Honestly I think your comment shows part of the problem here, though I do understand your point. But if "mere" employees feel that they are personally in competition with basically the rest of the world it easily becomes a war of attrition and employees become kind of soldier-ants. I'd rather be my own person thank you very much. People can in fact be loyal and productive in 8 hours per day without being a slacker and maybe have some energy left to partake in society outside of work. Nobody likes people with a bad work-ethic but if a good work-ethic is considered to require regular overtime than maybe it's time to reconsider that concept.

I don't even understand how they can sleep at work while the company is laying off half of its employees

lultimouomo 4y ago

Maybe they're trying to keep their job?

masklinn 4y ago
Pretty much, musk has put everyone on crunch for his whims.
amrocha 4y ago
They should try to get fired, get severance and look for something else
IshKebab 4y ago
Why would you want to keep your job in an environment like that though? The only thing I can think is there will be a lot of openings above you... Or you're on an H1B visa? Or maybe you're being vastly overpaid.
kergonath 4y ago
It still does not make any sense from a management perspective. They’re selecting slaves, not high performers.

smt88 4y ago

The implication is that they're working so many hours, it makes more sense to sleep in the office than to bother going home. It's sad and repulsive that there are people with such a cultish devotion to capitalism that they admire this behavior and culture.

subradios 4y ago
It's not a cultists devotion. It's business. Your competitor can exceed you if you aren't willing to pull all nighters. Well run companies do all nighters, and aren't so cultishly devoted to a "work life balance" that implies 4 hour workdays on slack. Well run companies also understand sustainability. Max effort will need to be demanded to exceed current capacity, but it is important not to rely on it as a crutch to get past poor design, poor process, or other management misfires. This is something games are seeing now, most of the industry luminaries cut their teeth in an era where the whole game fit on one disk. They assume that the weekend long anger coding to bash that one bug is the same as what they're asking their company to do.
- SturgeonsLaw 4y ago
  > Well run companies do all nighters Well run companies have adequate resourcing so that staff don't need to work all night
  - subradios 4y ago
    Adequate resourcing is irrelevant. Think of the holidays for retail - do you pay 2 to 3x the employees year round to support the November to December shopping season? If you did that, you would be very silly. Conditions will frequently demand that an "adequately resourced" company has to run overtime to take advantage of an opportunity, beat a competitor to a new feature, or other such situations. This happens all the time.
- hazaskull 4y ago
  Honestly I think your comment shows part of the problem here, though I do understand your point. But if "mere" employees feel that they are personally in competition with basically the rest of the world it easily becomes a war of attrition and employees become kind of soldier-ants. I'd rather be my own person thank you very much. People can in fact be loyal and productive in 8 hours per day without being a slacker and maybe have some energy left to partake in society outside of work. Nobody likes people with a bad work-ethic but if a good work-ethic is considered to require regular overtime than maybe it's time to reconsider that concept.