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I love how you found a way to blame men for womens choices. Those darned smelly CS grads with their non-matching clothes, if not for them more women would be i

I love how you found a way to blame men for womens choices. Those darned smelly CS grads with their non-matching clothes, if not for them more women would be in CS!

Der_Einzige 4y ago
Except that's exactly what it is. BO in CS classrooms is the worst. Every other department had less of this problem at my large public university.
- throwaway1492 4y ago
  Not just the BO, a big part of it is the personalities; aggressive know it all nerds are the worst. This is anecdotabl buy my now wife has always said she felt like she was taking a chance on me due to my job in software. And judging from the people I've worked with over the years, I have to agree. One of the worst things about software development is other software developers.
  - throwaway675309 4y ago
    Well if we're providing anecdotal counterpoints I would argue that software development has the least number of "type a personalities" especially when compared to other engineering fields such as mechanical and electrical - just by virtue of the fact that it encompasses such a wide swath of careers, for example you've got lots of people who would fall under the umbrella of software development that mostly just do web design and WordPress, they're about the least engineer-type people you can have.
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  - P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
    What's hilarious is what you're actually saying (and don't realize it). You're describing many of those who are what we would call "non-normative", if you will. aspergers, autism, and the like. Yes, it's statistically understood those who choose this career are more likely to fall into that category. So what's really being said here is that women are being chased out of well paying STEM field because they're too judgemental to deal with those who are non-normative. Is that really the fault of men, or maybe we should blame these self-same non-normative folks? ---- Can you imagine if someone were to claim the reason so many men choose not to go into nursing is because of the smell that happens roughly once/month? Think about why one is acceptable and the other is not.
    - throwaway1492 4y ago
      What's hilarious is what you're actually saying (and don't realize it). I didn’t mention gender, you did. GP didn’t either.
- DAVer98 4y ago
- imtringued 4y ago
  This must be a parody. If this was really the only barrier to women being in CS then a university could just sanction individuals with heavy body odor and tell them to take a shower and voila you have your women in CS utopia.
lokar 4y ago
I urge you to go speak (in depth) with women who did CS and then worked 5+ years in tech. IME doing this, many are happy with no regrets, but all have truly horrific stories to tell.
- Viliam1234 4y ago
  > all have truly horrific stories to tell. Unless the situation is different for women in law, or women in medicine, it still does not explain the lack of women in CS.
  - lokar 4y ago
    My impression from people in medicine and law is that they are much better.

I love how you found a way to blame men for womens choices. Those darned smelly CS grads with their non-matching clothes, if not for them more women would be in CS!

Der_Einzige 4y ago

Except that's exactly what it is. BO in CS classrooms is the worst. Every other department had less of this problem at my large public university.

throwaway1492 4y ago
Not just the BO, a big part of it is the personalities; aggressive know it all nerds are the worst. This is anecdotabl buy my now wife has always said she felt like she was taking a chance on me due to my job in software. And judging from the people I've worked with over the years, I have to agree. One of the worst things about software development is other software developers.
- throwaway675309 4y ago
  Well if we're providing anecdotal counterpoints I would argue that software development has the least number of "type a personalities" especially when compared to other engineering fields such as mechanical and electrical - just by virtue of the fact that it encompasses such a wide swath of careers, for example you've got lots of people who would fall under the umbrella of software development that mostly just do web design and WordPress, they're about the least engineer-type people you can have.
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- P5fRxh5kUvp2th 4y ago
  What's hilarious is what you're actually saying (and don't realize it). You're describing many of those who are what we would call "non-normative", if you will. aspergers, autism, and the like. Yes, it's statistically understood those who choose this career are more likely to fall into that category. So what's really being said here is that women are being chased out of well paying STEM field because they're too judgemental to deal with those who are non-normative. Is that really the fault of men, or maybe we should blame these self-same non-normative folks? ---- Can you imagine if someone were to claim the reason so many men choose not to go into nursing is because of the smell that happens roughly once/month? Think about why one is acceptable and the other is not.
  - throwaway1492 4y ago
    What's hilarious is what you're actually saying (and don't realize it). I didn’t mention gender, you did. GP didn’t either.
DAVer98 4y ago
imtringued 4y ago
This must be a parody. If this was really the only barrier to women being in CS then a university could just sanction individuals with heavy body odor and tell them to take a shower and voila you have your women in CS utopia.

lokar 4y ago

I urge you to go speak (in depth) with women who did CS and then worked 5+ years in tech. IME doing this, many are happy with no regrets, but all have truly horrific stories to tell.

Viliam1234 4y ago
> all have truly horrific stories to tell. Unless the situation is different for women in law, or women in medicine, it still does not explain the lack of women in CS.
- lokar 4y ago
  My impression from people in medicine and law is that they are much better.