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> Selenium > Playwright (coming soon) Why people still use Selenium? My brief experience with it was awful.

sz4kerto 4y ago
It works? We have an extensive set of Selenium-based tests (something like 5k of them), and it's fine. Why should we switch?
- rat9988 4y ago
  For selenium, "it works" is not a constant.
  - Aeolun 4y ago
    Not for Cypress either. I’m fairly certain it is just the nature of the beast.
- tester756 4y ago
  I had like 50 Selenium-based tests and false-negatives were really common. So I had to rerun tests a few times sometimes.
  - rad_gruchalski 4y ago
    I know people who have Java tests that sometimes work, sometimes don’t. That usually speaks for the quality of a test itself.
    - tester756 4y ago
      What do you mean?
fulafel 4y ago
It's a library and not a framework. Besides the inherent superiority of libraries vs hollywood-principle frameworks, this lets you just import "from selenium import webdriver" in your code and have a programmable browser that you can use in various ways. For example here's how to use it to - download files with a browser: https://selenium-python.readthedocs.io/faq.html#how-to-auto-save-files-using-custom-firefox-profile https://selenium-python.readthedocs.io/faq.html#how-to-auto-... - grab screenshot of a site: https://selenium-python.readthedocs.io/faq.html#how-to-take-screenshot-of-the-current-window https://selenium-python.readthedocs.io/faq.html#how-to-take-...
Tajnymag 4y ago
I would say universality. Selenium's webdriver has bindings to many languages and has more universal browser support, IMHO. But I see your point, downloading webdriver files manually and dealing with element awaiting isn't fun.
- 411111111111111 4y ago
  Really? Last time I needed browser automation for integration tests i just used selenide (jQuery inspired wrapper for selenium) and called it a day. Had no issues whatsoever running the tests through maven and had a pretty good development experience.

It works? We have an extensive set of Selenium-based tests (something like 5k of them), and it's fine. Why should we switch?

rat9988 4y ago
For selenium, "it works" is not a constant.
- Aeolun 4y ago
  Not for Cypress either. I’m fairly certain it is just the nature of the beast.
tester756 4y ago
I had like 50 Selenium-based tests and false-negatives were really common. So I had to rerun tests a few times sometimes.
- rad_gruchalski 4y ago
  I know people who have Java tests that sometimes work, sometimes don’t. That usually speaks for the quality of a test itself.
  - tester756 4y ago
    What do you mean?

fulafel 4y ago

It's a library and not a framework. Besides the inherent superiority of libraries vs hollywood-principle frameworks, this lets you just import "from selenium import webdriver" in your code and have a programmable browser that you can use in various ways. For example here's how to use it to - download files with a browser: https://selenium-python.readthedocs.io/faq.html#how-to-auto-save-files-using-custom-firefox-profile https://selenium-python.readthedocs.io/faq.html#how-to-auto-... - grab screenshot of a site: https://selenium-python.readthedocs.io/faq.html#how-to-take-screenshot-of-the-current-window https://selenium-python.readthedocs.io/faq.html#how-to-take-...

Tajnymag 4y ago

I would say universality. Selenium's webdriver has bindings to many languages and has more universal browser support, IMHO. But I see your point, downloading webdriver files manually and dealing with element awaiting isn't fun.

411111111111111 4y ago
Really? Last time I needed browser automation for integration tests i just used selenide (jQuery inspired wrapper for selenium) and called it a day. Had no issues whatsoever running the tests through maven and had a pretty good development experience.