I agree. Sounds like: "We're proud of the craziest kludge in history. Look mom, DHTML!" One could even write a full parody of one of the previous posts. (Sorr

I agree. Sounds like: "We're proud of the craziest kludge in history. Look mom, DHTML!" One could even write a full parody of one of the previous posts. (Sorry, SCNR): """ The JVM platform, Java in a browser, is one of the greatest inventions of all time. Its versatility is immeasurable. The fact we have one toolkit that scales from a simple text based platform to full application development environment, is insane. It covers all paradigms of computing, from thin client to full offline enabled local computing. It is incredible that the community have built this general purpose platform, and that it's not only versatile but also incredibly performant. Modern Java interpreters are only 50% the speed of native C, no compiler or toolkit needed. How insane is that! JavaFX/CSS is growing from strength to strength, it's a gui toolkit with so much power universally supported on all computing platforms, from phones to desktops. It has so many features, and is so extendable, but anyone can use it anywhere. There's no limit to its capability, or who can use it to build their inventions. The same toolkit can be used by small children to explore the ideas around "programming" all the way up to the best developers in the world. Honestly the argument that we have somehow gone wrong with Java is absurd. What this platform has contributed to humanity is immeasurable. The "original vision" of Java as a platform only for embedded devices may be dead. But it lives on as a platform for human invention, ingenuity and creativity. """