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It seems like over the past 6 months there has been a change at Apple. They are consistently seeming more evil with each passing week. Any Apple employees here

by AJRF 4y ago

It seems like over the past 6 months there has been a change at Apple. They are consistently seeming more evil with each passing week. Any Apple employees here that can shed more light on org changes that are causing this?

Dig1t 4y ago
Care to share some examples? Apple seems the same to me..
- scarface74 4y ago
  Ads. Apple is making the user experience worse with each place they allow ads - the App Store and hawking other Apple services at each opportunity. Services. While I have no problem with most Apple Services, the idea that the 5GB of free iCloud storage hasn’t changed since 2010 is ridiculous. How many photos have been lost because of it?
amelius 4y ago
Regardless, it was always stupid to think that $MEGACORP would forever treat us, consumers and power users, the way they did in the beginning.
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cageface 4y ago
Growth has to come from somewhere and everyone already has an iPhone. Expecting large public companies to act in anyone’s interests but their own is naive.
- sebastien_b 4y ago
  That’s the problem with public companies - by definition they cannot do what’s best for their users, as that will eventually conflict with their duty to their real customers: their shareholders.
  - andsoitis 4y ago
    If you’re American and have a 401(k), you’re a shareholder too.
    - sergiomattei 4y ago
      “Can’t criticize capitalism if you’re holding an iPhone”
      - andsoitis 4y ago
        I know what you're saying, but I'm not trying to say you can't be critical of a system you benefit form / participate in. What I am implying is that, as shareholders, either directly or via proxy like a pension fund, we demand high profits. So we're trying to have our cake and eat it too.
webmobdev 4y ago
Here's what an ex-employee is saying: > When ads first appeared in the App Store in early iOS betas, many inside were very upset ... We pushed back strongly. After a meeting where management pretended to listen to our concerns, it was evident they had no intention of changing their mind ... To me ads in iOS are particularly offensive because I took pride in making products that served the customer. Ads turn “customers” into “users” to be monetized for the real customers, the ad buyers. They fundamentally compromise the integrity of the product. Source: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1585150636781637632.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1585150636781637632.html
ksec 4y ago
>They are consistently seeming more evil with each passing week. That is simply not true. They are pretty much the same every single week for at least the past 5 years. What has changed is that the media, the public, or anybody reading has finally accepted the fact Apple may not be so righteous. Or, all the good faith they had, mostly saved up during Steve Jobs's era has finally burned out.

by AJRF 4y ago

Dig1t 4y ago

Care to share some examples? Apple seems the same to me..

scarface74 4y ago
Ads. Apple is making the user experience worse with each place they allow ads - the App Store and hawking other Apple services at each opportunity. Services. While I have no problem with most Apple Services, the idea that the 5GB of free iCloud storage hasn’t changed since 2010 is ridiculous. How many photos have been lost because of it?

amelius 4y ago

Regardless, it was always stupid to think that $MEGACORP would forever treat us, consumers and power users, the way they did in the beginning.

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cageface 4y ago

Growth has to come from somewhere and everyone already has an iPhone. Expecting large public companies to act in anyone’s interests but their own is naive.

sebastien_b 4y ago
That’s the problem with public companies - by definition they cannot do what’s best for their users, as that will eventually conflict with their duty to their real customers: their shareholders.
- andsoitis 4y ago
  If you’re American and have a 401(k), you’re a shareholder too.
  - sergiomattei 4y ago
    “Can’t criticize capitalism if you’re holding an iPhone”
    - andsoitis 4y ago
      I know what you're saying, but I'm not trying to say you can't be critical of a system you benefit form / participate in. What I am implying is that, as shareholders, either directly or via proxy like a pension fund, we demand high profits. So we're trying to have our cake and eat it too.

webmobdev 4y ago

Here's what an ex-employee is saying: > When ads first appeared in the App Store in early iOS betas, many inside were very upset ... We pushed back strongly. After a meeting where management pretended to listen to our concerns, it was evident they had no intention of changing their mind ... To me ads in iOS are particularly offensive because I took pride in making products that served the customer. Ads turn “customers” into “users” to be monetized for the real customers, the ad buyers. They fundamentally compromise the integrity of the product. Source: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1585150636781637632.html https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1585150636781637632.html

ksec 4y ago

>They are consistently seeming more evil with each passing week. That is simply not true. They are pretty much the same every single week for at least the past 5 years. What has changed is that the media, the public, or anybody reading has finally accepted the fact Apple may not be so righteous. Or, all the good faith they had, mostly saved up during Steve Jobs's era has finally burned out.