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Have there been these "context notes" before?
by h43z 4y ago
Have there been these "context notes" before?
- r00fus 4y agoDefinitely not for Trump - it's a recent twitter feature (pre-Musk). But it's usage recently has spiked and is more like a pinned reply.
- hersko 4y agoBy Trump they directly "fact" checked the tweets.
- r00fus 4y agoThere are thousands of Trump's tweets that were bald-faced lies that did not get fact checked. Instead people replied in the comments. That one or two of his tweets may have gotten a "<!> may be inaccurate" advisory is completely different from this kind of "community".
- bpodgursky 4y agoYeah but the tooling has evolved over time. If those got tweeted today, there would be "context" added on many of them.
- roflyear 4y agoLet's see if that is true! We should find out, right?
- bpodgursky 4y agoIf you have a 80 million follow account, go for it. Not sure what you're suggesting.
- roflyear 4y agoI'm saying we'll find out soon if conservative politicians are treated the same way. Do you disagree?
- lawn 4y agoI always thought Trump's tweets were a big reason for these context notes being added in the first place.
- pessimizer 4y agoThere are constitutional questions raised when intermediaries are editing a POTUS's communications. Just like there were constitutional questions that kept him from banning people. edit: while I love the event that sparked this thread, I would be upset if they were adding this shit to Biden's personal account.
- awb 4y ago> I would be upset if they were adding this shit to Biden's personal account I'm not sure if it's codified anywhere, but I don't think a sitting US President is afforded the luxury of a personal life while in office, outside of personal non-political relationships. Otherwise, the POTUS would just pick and choose when they were acting as a President and when they weren't as a legal loophole. So, any public communication, wether on an official or personal account, would be considered an act of the POTUS while they're in office, no? If so, then I don't know why you'd treat it any differently than an official WH account, especially if the personal account is being used to discuss current political events relating to their role as POTUS.
- pessimizer 4y ago> I don't think a sitting US President is afforded the luxury of a personal life while in office It's not his personal life I'm thinking about, it's his political life. He's the top elected official, and the top representative of a political party. His political speech shouldn't be played around with, even if we can somehow rationalize political censorship for everyone else. I think that's different than an official White House account, though, because the actual government belongs to us. In his function as head administrator of the Executive Branch, he's an employee. In his function as the winner of a presidential election, however, he's the anointed representative for a majority of US voters (more or less, because of our antiquated system), and silencing him is antidemocratic.
- awb 4y ago> In his function as head administrator of the Executive Branch, he's an employee. In his function as the winner of a presidential election, however, he's the anointed representative for a majority of US voters (more or less, because of our antiquated system) OK, but then how do you determine when he’s acting in which capacity? > and silencing him is antidemocratic. These context bubbles are supplemental and apparently provided by users. They’re not hiding anyone’s speech. It’s more like boosting the most succinct, relevant reply.
- partiallypro 4y agoYou sound like someone that hasn't used Twitter or has a short memory span, because they did direct fact checks. This was also an official government account vs a personal account (which is what Trump was using.) Twitter also evolved their system because of Trump's ramblings.
- bena 4y agoYes. But now it's something different. The "context" notes are user submitted/voted by a selection of users. The previous system was more of a group at twitter who verified statements. The claim is that the new "context" process is more transparent and/or egalitarian. When the truth of the matter is that it's just going to devolve into being abused by the "well ackshually" crowd. It's also interesting to note that the same sort of context disappeared from one of Musk's tweets. So, I guess, what's good for the goose is not good for the gander.
- jandrese 4y ago> The "context" notes are user submitted/voted by a selection of users. Oh, so you are saying they can be gamed for political benefit? Whomever has the biggest botnet gets to control the narrative?
- nightski 4y agoAlternative viewpoints is not controlling a narrative.
- jandrese 4y agoIf every comment you make gets appended with "Actually: vaccines cause autism" then that's narrative control.
- partiallypro 4y agoOf course, that's not remotely how the system works or has been used. This goes into what I've said elsewhere today regarding Twitter. I've seen SO much hyperbole on what's going on, when almost nothing at all is going on in terms of moderation changes. It's so very hyper-partisan at the moment.
- propogandist 4y agoDefinitely not for Biden nor current whitehouse before Musk took over. Birdwatch was developed in 2021, so it obviously wasn’t a feature when Trump was in power.
- TechBro8615 4y agoWhat? Twitter was putting these little boxes below Trump's tweets as early as 2020, often referring to his "false and debunked claims" about a future election that hadn't happened yet. They later banned him from their service entirely.