Been a while since I finished but I wouldn't call it engineering, based on these (maybe) arbitrary criteria: - you're mostly only doing the slightly? easier

Been a while since I finished but I wouldn't call it engineering, based on these (maybe) arbitrary criteria: - you're mostly only doing the slightly? easier math courses - zero physics and the signal processing stuff I'd rate "kinda basic" - you're not allowed to call yourself an "engineer" unless your university has built your program that way, in former times it would be "Diplom-Informatiker" vs "Diplom-Ingenieur" (I am the former). I am not a huge fan of the last point, but it's a fact, so I'll put it here. One of my more specific gripes is that this is still arbitrary. I'm not completely sold that my uni education was brilliant, but I've seen people who are allowed to call themselves engineers know and do, and it comes down to the same knowledge (or worse) but they had like one semester of hardware stuff (out of 9-10 semesters). Also any code of ethics is usually completely absent, or maybe they actually did change that for some unis now. Also another caveat, they mostly got rid of the old "Diploma" systems and for the last 8-12 years most people graduate as BSc and MSc, so whenever the topic comes to it I'll say "it's about equivalent to a MSc in CS" because it was supposed to be 9-10 semesters in total, with some sort of cut in the middle, that did not directly correlate to a BSc, but was a 2y part.