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Does Twitter have any way to prevent/punish using screenshots instead of the Twitter embed thing when you put Tweets on your website? Twitter can probably not

Does Twitter have any way to prevent/punish using screenshots instead of the Twitter embed thing when you put Tweets on your website? Twitter can probably not use copyright to fight this, a Tweet probably does not fall under copyright because it is too short, right?

buggeryorkshire 4y ago
I'm sure the BBC did exactly that for ages, iirc because somebody who got their tweet embedded by them changed their display name to "big dogs cock" or something.
- oneeyedpigeon 4y ago
  That sounds like a flaw in the embedding technology — surely the display name should be whatever it was when the tweet was created?
  - r00fus 4y ago
    How do think embeds actually work? There is not snapshotting of data - it's simply a URL that renders at request - an HTML iframe.
    - darrenf 4y ago
      Sure, but there's no reason Twitter/whoever couldn't decide to offer a parameter like `at=<timestamp>` - which is really not that different to, say, a link to a file on github at a particular commit.
      - r00fus 4y ago
        Sure. I don't think Twitter has such an "look up as of effective date" enterprise feature though. Have you been able to access that data that way either through the UI or API?
        darrenf 4y ago
        No, I don't use the API (or twitter at all, for that matter). I was just reacting to your statement: > There is not snapshotting of data - it's simply a URL that renders at request - an HTML iframe. "Simply a URL", the resource to which it refers being rendered in an iframe, could easily be a snapshot - as it is on other sites. Hence to me this read like a non sequitur.
        oneeyedpigeon 4y ago
        I didn't mean to suggest that it would necessarily be possible today - I doubt twitter keeps a full history of username changes, for example, and they'd probably need to introduce more restrictions around changing them if they were to do so. That can all be part of the 'flaws' in the embedding technology I referred to.
FartyMcFarter 4y ago
Would the copyright even belong to Twitter, as opposed to the author of the tweet?
staticman2 4y ago
Short works can fall into copyright in the U.S. Heck, even taking a photo of the Mona Lisa is subject to copyright in the U.S under the theory there is creativity in the composition of the photo.

buggeryorkshire 4y ago

I'm sure the BBC did exactly that for ages, iirc because somebody who got their tweet embedded by them changed their display name to "big dogs cock" or something.

oneeyedpigeon 4y ago
That sounds like a flaw in the embedding technology — surely the display name should be whatever it was when the tweet was created?
- r00fus 4y ago
  How do think embeds actually work? There is not snapshotting of data - it's simply a URL that renders at request - an HTML iframe.
  - darrenf 4y ago
    Sure, but there's no reason Twitter/whoever couldn't decide to offer a parameter like `at=<timestamp>` - which is really not that different to, say, a link to a file on github at a particular commit.
    - r00fus 4y ago
      Sure. I don't think Twitter has such an "look up as of effective date" enterprise feature though. Have you been able to access that data that way either through the UI or API?
      - darrenf 4y ago
        No, I don't use the API (or twitter at all, for that matter). I was just reacting to your statement: > There is not snapshotting of data - it's simply a URL that renders at request - an HTML iframe. "Simply a URL", the resource to which it refers being rendered in an iframe, could easily be a snapshot - as it is on other sites. Hence to me this read like a non sequitur.
      - oneeyedpigeon 4y ago
        I didn't mean to suggest that it would necessarily be possible today - I doubt twitter keeps a full history of username changes, for example, and they'd probably need to introduce more restrictions around changing them if they were to do so. That can all be part of the 'flaws' in the embedding technology I referred to.

FartyMcFarter 4y ago

Would the copyright even belong to Twitter, as opposed to the author of the tweet?

staticman2 4y ago

Short works can fall into copyright in the U.S. Heck, even taking a photo of the Mona Lisa is subject to copyright in the U.S under the theory there is creativity in the composition of the photo.