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French here, many supermarkets have vertical, doorless fridges. So if they are banned, either these supermarkets are breaking the law, or it is not yet effectiv
by GuB-42 4y ago
French here, many supermarkets have vertical, doorless fridges. So if they are banned, either these supermarkets are breaking the law, or it is not yet effective.
I am talking about fridges for milk, cheese, etc... that are round 5C. I don't remember seeing vertical, doorless sub-zero freezers. In fact nowadays, even the horizontal freezers usually have doors.
- cryptonym 4y agoI don't think this is mandatory but government have been lobbying with supermarkets and they agreed to add doors about 8 years ago, probably to avoid being forced with a total ban. You still see some small doorless fridges with high margin quick grab products but you no longer need to wear a coat when you go near the fresh or frozen department.
- londons_explore 4y agoPart of this is not energy savings, but food safety - doorless fridges often have some products near the front that aren't kept to the required sub-5C. Meat products often require 0-3C nowadays too, which is an even narrower range and even harder to meet across all products in a doorless fridge. Lower and more precise temperatures reduces food waste, which indirectly reduces both costs and energy use.
- johannes1234321 4y agoOver here in Germany I am seeing those fridges getting doors when supermarkets are being renovated as well. But still many open ones exist. (While I assume that some of those are opened quite often, where shutting doors might push a lot of warm air back in, while keeping them open with less air movement might even be more efficient)
- Scoundreller 4y agoWhere in France you buying refrigerated milk? (Somewhat joking. I’m sure chilled milk is a thing, but I think shelf-stable UHT has like 95% of the market)
- SCUDhunter 4y agoAlmost any supermarket ;) You're right though, UHT is a big thing for some inexplicable reason.
- GuB-42 4y agoUHT is a bit cheaper and of course, shelf stable. I understand the reason why it is so popular. Personally, I use both. I usually buy a bottle or two of fresh milk when I go shopping, and I keep a pack of UHT in case I don't have enough fresh milk. This way, I will not run out of milk, and I will not let my fresh milk spoil because I bought too much. And yes, fresh milk (whole and half-skimmed) can be found in almost any supermarket. AFAIK skimmed milk is almost exclusively UHT, and raw milk is very hard to find but not illegal.