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If I use Photoshop to create an image that is identical to a registered trademark, is the rights violation my fault or Adobe’s fault?

xigoi 4y ago
Photoshop can't produce copyrighted images on its own.
- metadat 4y ago
  To play devil's advocate: Co-Pilot can't reproduce copyrighted work without appropriate user input. Just trying to demonstrate a point- this analogy seems flawed.
  - heavyset_go 4y ago
    If I draw some eyes in Photoshop, it won't automatically draw the Mona Lisa around it for me.
    - metadat 4y ago
      Until you sprinkle a bit of Stable Diffusion V2 or 3 on it, or perhaps some GaN. The more I think about it, the more this all seems like another dimension of Jack and the Magic Beanstalk crossed with The Matrix.
    - WithinReason 4y ago
      If you Google Mona Lisa the result is the Mona Lisa. If you query Copilot for a common piece of code you get that code.
      - heavyset_go 4y ago
        Google doesn't sell its search feature as a product that you can just plagiarize the results from and they're yours. Microsoft does that with Copilot. Copilot is as much of a search engine as Stable Diffusion or DALL-e are, which is to say they aren't at all. If you want to compare it to a search engine, despite it being a tortured metaphor, the most apt comparison is not to Google, but to The Pirate Bay if TPB stored all of their copyrighted content and served it up themselves.
        WithinReason 4y ago
        With Copilot it's your responsibility not to use it as a search engine to copy-paste code. It's completely obvious when it's being used as a search engine so it's not a problem at all. Stable Diffusion works on completely different principles and they can't exactly replicate a pixels from their training data.
    - adriand 4y ago
      So the problem you have with it is the UI?
kyruzic 4y ago
No because that's not a trademark violation in anyway. Using GPL code in a non GPL project is a violation of copyright law though.

xigoi 4y ago

Photoshop can't produce copyrighted images on its own.

metadat 4y ago
To play devil's advocate: Co-Pilot can't reproduce copyrighted work without appropriate user input. Just trying to demonstrate a point- this analogy seems flawed.
- heavyset_go 4y ago
  If I draw some eyes in Photoshop, it won't automatically draw the Mona Lisa around it for me.
  - metadat 4y ago
    Until you sprinkle a bit of Stable Diffusion V2 or 3 on it, or perhaps some GaN. The more I think about it, the more this all seems like another dimension of Jack and the Magic Beanstalk crossed with The Matrix.
  - WithinReason 4y ago
    If you Google Mona Lisa the result is the Mona Lisa. If you query Copilot for a common piece of code you get that code.
    - heavyset_go 4y ago
      Google doesn't sell its search feature as a product that you can just plagiarize the results from and they're yours. Microsoft does that with Copilot. Copilot is as much of a search engine as Stable Diffusion or DALL-e are, which is to say they aren't at all. If you want to compare it to a search engine, despite it being a tortured metaphor, the most apt comparison is not to Google, but to The Pirate Bay if TPB stored all of their copyrighted content and served it up themselves.
      - WithinReason 4y ago
        With Copilot it's your responsibility not to use it as a search engine to copy-paste code. It's completely obvious when it's being used as a search engine so it's not a problem at all. Stable Diffusion works on completely different principles and they can't exactly replicate a pixels from their training data.
  - adriand 4y ago
    So the problem you have with it is the UI?

kyruzic 4y ago

No because that's not a trademark violation in anyway. Using GPL code in a non GPL project is a violation of copyright law though.