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TextMate 2
- petercooper 15y agoPLEASE DO NOT REPUBLISH THIS INFORMATION! .. is probably the best thing to write if you want something to get republished ;-) Nonetheless, all of the reports I'm seeing on Twitter are resoundingly positive so far, albeit with a few complaints over the icon (but what's new there?)
- getsat 15y agoWhile I doubt it, it could have been intentional to reignite interest/discussion.
- adambyrtek 15y agoSounds like: "Don't think of a pink elephant."
- wfarr 15y agoExcept the part where people who received the original email have 100% control over whether or not they do tell other people about it.
- wfarr 15y ago> PLEASE DO NOT REPUBLISH THIS INFORMATION! From the linked email.
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- bruth 15y agohttp://instagr.am/p/Yyrjy/ http://instagr.am/p/Yyrjy/
- emehrkay 15y agoIt's beautiful. Downloading now. I scanned the mail, I wonder if they address auto refreshing of network sources.
- apike 15y agoCongratulations to Allan for overcoming coder's block and burnout and putting something in people's hands. I've complained about the wait as much as anybody else, but if I'm still using Textmate 1 after 6 years of waiting, that's something he should be proud of too.
- deanpcmad 15y agoBut how do we download it? The link on that thread is dead... :(
- kreutz 15y agoAllan pulled the download. It will be officially released tomorrow.
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- brcrth 15y agoHm.. I wonder how many people will switch back to TextMate 2 from Vim/Emacs/Sublime Text?
- mgrouchy 15y agoI imagine all three are superior to TM2, especially Vim and Emacs, after you bust through the learning curve no point ever going back.
- rachet 15y agoLast I heard, TM2 was being targeted for Lion - two operating systems ago. Five years is a long time.
- huxley 15y agoLittle typo there, TM2 was targeting Leopard.
- rayiner 15y ago<- Emacs user (for years) who is looking to switch back to TM at least for some things. Can't live anymore without a modern non-fidgety GUI or basic necessities like Lion fullscreen support. Programming on a laptop dramatically changes the cost/benefit of keyboard-heavy interfaces, IMHO. E.g. it's almost as quick for me to flick the cursor to switch tabs as it is to type a chorded keyboard shortcut to switch buffers, especially factoring in the ability to look and think about what buffer I want before initiating any movement.
- tikhonj 15y agoOn the other hand, the buffer system scales up to much larger amounts of buffers really easily, which I find very useful. Also, on KDE at least, Emacs has both a very nice GUI and fullscreen support. Finally, I am now using a 13" laptop, and using the keyboard is still more efficient despite the really nice touchpad my new computer has.
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- tvon 15y ago> Sadly I had to pull the alpha since it’s now all over twitter w/o proper introductionary text, hotfixes, etc. (http://lists.macromates.com/textmate-dev/2011-December/014651.html http://lists.macromates.com/textmate-dev/2011-December/01465...) Maybe something to do with the IMPOSSIBLE TO MISS REQUEST TO NOT RE-PUBLISH THE ALPHA INFORMATION that people can't seem to comprehend.
- johanjessen 15y agoI was thinking the same thing. It's too good to be true, so people are too eager to share it, despite Alpha issues. Can't wait to try it myself though...
- acidblue 15y agoYeah, no doubt. I saw that and thought it was lame for people to post the announcement. WTF? And I'm the one with -20 karma. I have no idea how. WTF is karma anyway?
- starnix17 15y agoFor what's it worth, this was posted on a publicly accessible TextMate mailing list. Not sure why he would think it wouldn't leak out.
- biot 15y agoCommon courtesy? I know it's rather uncommon these days...
- nestlequ1k 15y agoCommon courtesy is typically lost after 6 years of neglect.
- slig 15y agoHow is the author taking his time to release a new version neglect? People that were not happy with the wait migrated to other editors. He owns us nothing.
- quellhorst 15y agoDownload link: http://www.multiupload.com/VA06QA4MI0 http://www.multiupload.com/VA06QA4MI0 Requires a Textmate 1.0 serial to use.
- randall 15y agoFor the love... anyone please upload it?
- scrod 15y agoYour self-control is just masterful. Congratulations.
- bretr 15y agohttp://www.sublimetext.com/2 http://www.sublimetext.com/2
- frou_dh 15y agoThe Sublime2 dev builds have slowed as of late so I was wondering if the author was prepping for final release to steal TM2's thunder.
- chubs 15y agoI was wondering similarly: Dev work on ST2 seems to have stopped altogether. Which is a pity, because it really was shaping up to be a winner. But there are still plenty of features missing. Now i'm using chocolatapp, which seems to be moving along briskly and now has a better feature set.
- dextorious 15y ago"""Dev work on ST2 seems to have stopped altogether.""" Yeah, no new beta release for a whole of 40 days! """Now i'm using chocolatapp, which seems to be moving along briskly and now has a better feature set.""" The only reason it "moves along briskly" is because it started with very little. And better than ST2? Currently is somewhere south of TextMate 1.x
- frou_dh 15y agoAgreed. My observation about Sublime2 was a positive one. Taking a break from releasing a new dev build every day is not neglect.
- kstrauser 15y agoBuild 2143 came out on November 12. I'm using build 2144 from November 25. The release pace is slower, but that's still pretty active.
- alextgordon 15y ago> The only reason it "moves along briskly" is because it started with very little… Release early, release often.
- ssoroka 15y agoBut is it better than sublime? :P
- jjcall 15y agoNo split windows yet... still hoping.
- gurkendoktor 15y agoBe sure to drop by in ##textmate on freenode, the discussion on how to implement and use split windows is not really making progress so far.
- nicksergeant 15y agoThat is simply depressing. I went to Vim for this alone, and, well now I'm addicted to Vim.
- getsat 15y agoI got tired of waiting and moved to Sublime Text 2 for this reason alone. Three columns at once is glorious.
- hemancuso 15y agoSeriously? Wow.
- b3b0p 15y agoThis was the first thing I looked for in the feature list and after I started it up for the first time. Thought for sure I was missing it some where. Looks like I'm not the only one. Next, I was looking for fullscreen... Surely it's here, but I'm not seeing it. These 2 features alone are huge to me and reasons I still stick with MacVim despite it feeling/being clumsy at times. It just doesn't have that same polish, look, feel that TextMate has. Sublime is nice I guess, but I just can't get into it (I still bought a license to try out and support the efforts).
- biesnecker 15y agoFirst Duke Nukem, now Textmate... it's sad to see the vaporware industry collapse like this, isn't it?
- bradgessler 15y agoDon't forget about the Higgs Boson.
- tomelders 15y agoThe Super Luminal Neutrino business is still doing pretty well.
- Pewpewarrows 15y agoSeriously, who puts PLEASE DO NOT REPUBLISH THIS INFORMATION! on a publicly-accessible mailing list unless they're just asking for the Streisand Effect to occur.
- cmod 15y agoDoes it natively/properly support Japanese?
- sirn 15y agoEven more broken than before, in fact. It cannot handle IME input at all (I'm testing with Kotoeri). Trying to type "aiueo" yields something like this (including all the NSUnderline stuff and highlights): http://cl.ly/0U3c3G3K471c0b341v33 http://cl.ly/0U3c3G3K471c0b341v33 However support for South Asian languages has improved a lot from what I can see, which is a good sign.
- dicemoose 15y agoAh geez, that's unfortunate. The hack to make CJK input work is the only part of Textmate 1 that I found sucky.
- AlexMax 15y agoFor my personal use, this release falls a little flat because these days being cross-platform is a pretty important editor feature to me. It's great that Find in Files doesn't freeze the entire program anymore, but I need something that works no matter if I'm on my Mac laptop, my Windows desktop or my remote Linux server. I'm currently a Sublime Text 2 user by day, but I'm on the cusp of switching to Emacs full-time. That said, TextMate was the first scriptable text editor I ever truly enjoyed using, and I'm really pleased to see that TM2 is finally about to be released to a wider audience after such a long development cycle. Congratulations to Allan for finally having something that he can share with the world, and I don't regret what I paid for the license, even if I no longer use it.
- bjornsteffanson 15y agoI really hope that's not the final icon.
- patrickod 15y agoI don't know how Allan figured this release would remain out of the public eye. Yes if you want to alpha release it to a very select group of people but don't send your release notes and download links to a public mailing list. Word will definitely leak out.
- fagatini 15y agoSublime Text 2
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- hornbaker 15y agoStill no mention of chunked Undos. Undo'ing character by character is why I gave up on TextMate years ago, but I suppose I should be thankful since it helped me find Vim.
- hornbaker 15y agoCorrection: I found chunked undos listed on a separate feature list: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/891742/Screenshots/tm2_release_notes.html http://dl.dropbox.com/u/891742/Screenshots/tm2_release_notes...
- cmwright 15y agoIt has definitely improved from char-by-char undo. It's at least doing word by word and seems to grab bigger chunks in some instances
- bad_user 15y agoConsidering how in Emacs an Undo can also be undone and that you can apply Undo only on a selected region, text editors that are undoing char-by-char leave a bad impression on me.
- thingsinjars 15y agoCharacter-by-character undo is actually the reason I first started using Textmate. Most of the time, I don't want the editor to guess what I want to undo, I want it to undo each individual keystroke and action I made.
- dextorious 15y agoSeriously? That's why there are different kinds of Undo for different key combinations in serious text editors.
- thingsinjars 15y agoYes, seriously. It's a personal preference. Is the second part of your comment intended to imply TextMate isn't a serious text editor?
- awolf 15y agoOn the surface, his request to not republish seems laughable. However, I'd guess Alan expected our collective failure to respect his wishes knowing that once it began to spread he could cut off access. His goal of getting a small set of the most devoted users to download and sanity check his pending release was accomplished.
- tuananh 15y agoI couldn't figure out how to change color scheme !?
- 1qaz2wsx3edc 15y agoI copied my old one, maybe this will help: Copy ~/Library/Application\ Support/TextMate/Themes/YourTextMate1.x.tmTheme To ~/Library/Application\ Support/TextMate/Managed/Bundles/Themes.tmbundle/Themes/ Name it, and regenerate the uuid (must be valid). Reopen textmate, select you're old theme from View -> Theme
- tuananh 15y agohow do i regenerate the uuid? with uuidgen?? I did that and copy the generated uuid and replace in my theme. it doesn't work. did i do sth wrong?
- etherealG 15y agoimport the theme into the old textmate. then use the file that had just copying it over. no need to do anything special with uuids. works a charm.
- kondro 15y agoThemes are on the View menu.
- tuananh 15y agoolps, i was thinking about installing color scheme. any idea?
- bigfudge 15y agoLoving the new proportional-fonts-for-headings in Markdown. It seems so obvious in retrospect, but it's the one thing that makes writing longer document painful for me in any text editor.
- miketucker 15y agosure got hit with an ugly stick: http://cl.ly/CZC2 http://cl.ly/CZC2
- mattparlane 15y agoWhatcha writing there? That doesn't look like any JavaScript I've ever seen... enums?
- __float 15y agoIt looks to be UnityScript. http://www.unifycommunity.com/wiki/index.php?title=Head_First_into_Unity_with_UnityScript http://www.unifycommunity.com/wiki/index.php?title=Head_Firs...
- davej 15y agoApart from the icons in the left pane, which will obviously be changed, it looks fine to me.
- JonnieCache 15y agoMeanwhile the sublime text 2 guy knocks out sweet new features every couple of weeks like it ain't no thing. Just sayin'
- billpatrianakos 15y agoYeah you have a point there. There are a ton of people knocking out new versions daily. My favorite editor's developer, Chocolat (http://chocolatapp.com http://chocolatapp.com) has been updating his editor almost daily for the past few days! In any case, why is it so important for TextMate to get to 2.0? This is an honest question. I understand that software needs minor bug fixes and patches so it can continue to be stable, run well despite OS updates, and be secure but what new features is everyone looking for? I just don't get what people are waiting for.
- jshen 15y agoBetter integration with version control is what I was looking for. I've moved on to emacs at this point.
- Groxx 15y agoIt's one of the best editors out there, easily. And it's one of the most stable. The current version is fantastic in almost every way... but it has its hiccups, and I see no reason to deny that they exist. Top on my list is the fact that doing a find-in-project causes TextMate to freeze for 30 seconds and consume a gigabyte of memory that it's reluctant to release. Then there's its inability to handle very-wide lines, wrapped or not (it crawls after a couple thousand characters, and simply shoves all the characters together after ~10k or so (haven't tried in a while)). Or that its 'find' doesn't highlight all matches, or have a nice shiny highlight-marker in the scrollbar like I've been ruined with by Chrome. I'm eager for 2.0, to see what it is, but 1 is good and there are alternatives, so I'm not sure what the fervor is for, aside from its delay being absolutely huge.
- geeksam 15y agoYou know about AckMate, right? It's indispensable. (No find/replace, but on the upside, it's ridiculously fast.)
- Zelphyr 15y agoOk, yeah, maybe it was naive to expect the link to not be redistributed but was it too much to ask that people actually honor the request? Especially considering its going to be publicly available in a day. I hope none of you work in national security.
- teilo 15y agoI am glad to see this, and will likely upgrade, but having moved on to PyCharm, I have very little reason to go back to TextMate for my Python/Django work.
- mhartl 15y agoSeveral people have noted that TM2 lacks desired features, such as split screens. My guess (hope?) is that this alpha release includes massively refactored internals to allow new features to be added quickly. In other words, maybe it's a black triangle (http://rampantgames.com/blog/2004/10/black-triangle.html http://rampantgames.com/blog/2004/10/black-triangle.html).
- 1qaz2wsx3edc 15y agoTextMate 1 is r1631 TextMate 2 is r8926 7000 commits, Allan is pretty badass, IMO. For everyone mentioning sublime vs textmate. Editor holy wars are pointless. Jeez.
- rhubarbquid 15y agoHoly wars are pointless... but there is value to a reasonable discussion of two competing editors.
- blissofbeing 15y agoI really liked the web preview of TM1. But its gone in this version of TM2. :( No other editor has this functionality, except maybe espresso[1], but I don't really like their solution. Nor am I that happy with http://livereload.com/ http://livereload.com/ as it only updates on save. As a front end dev, I want a live preview in my editor that autoupdates on each key press, this makes prototyping so much faster. I guess its time to start working on a SublimeText2 Plugin... [1]http://macrabbit.com/espresso/ http://macrabbit.com/espresso/
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- aerique 15y agoCan you please expand on this live preview thing so people can add it to Emacs?
- blissofbeing 15y agoSure. A live preview window is a web preview window that is attached to another window (or buffer I suppose). The live preview window is basically a web browser window that auto-updates on each keypress from the attached editor window. Espresso and Chocolat have this functionality, but it looks like these editors simply refresh the whole page on every keypress. This constant refreshing causes a flicker on each keypress and makes me turn it off because I don't like the constant flickering. Livereload is similar because it refreshes the entire browser window on every file save. Its not instant so its not an ideal solution for me. TM1 seems to only update that text that is updated, no flickering, possibly through some iframe injection technique, I find the iframe injection technique[1] much easier on the eyes because there isn't a page flicker on each keypress. So, on to make some plugins... :) [1]http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/html-css-techniques/how-to-inject-custom-html-and-css-into-an-iframe/ http://net.tutsplus.com/tutorials/html-css-techniques/how-to...
- aerique 15y agoThanks!
- buff-a 15y agoI used to use TextMate until fairly recently for anything that XCode, IntelliJ or MD didn't handle natively. Now I use SlickEdit for Mac [1] as it finally has a native version. Though, concretely, I still use TextMate for Octave. =) [1] http://www.slickedit.com/products/slickedit-for-mac http://www.slickedit.com/products/slickedit-for-mac
- fernyb 15y agoTextMate was just a one hit wonder...
- jbverschoor 15y agoHaappy user of the constantly updated, fast and never-crashing rossplatform sublimetext2. The atitude and history of textmate forces me to stay with sublimetext.
- mlopes 15y agoDidn't like it that much. After about half an hour using it went back to Textmate 1. Now I'll give a chance to Sublime Text 2 that I've had around for ages but never got to give it a real chance yet.
- phylofx 15y agoHow this could leak out is really beyond me. I mean can't people keep secrets on the internet anymore? He even asked to NOT RE-PUBLISH THE INFORMATION, and then this.
- dextorious 15y agoI hope you're being ironic.
- odilontalk 15y agohttp://pastebin.com/aWVQisAm http://pastebin.com/aWVQisAm
- odilontalk 15y agohttp://api.cld.me/CZdZ/download/TextMate_r8926.tbz http://api.cld.me/CZdZ/download/TextMate_r8926.tbz
- TheNInthCut 15y agoDoes anyone know how to manually install themes on TextMate 2?
- etherealG 15y agocp ~/Library/Application\ Support/TextMate/Themes/* ~/Library/Application\ Support/TextMate/Managed/Bundles/Themes.tmbundle/Themes/
- TheNInthCut 15y agoHas anyone figured out how to stop the font from resetting? I know he said it was in tm_properties, but I'm not sure how to set this.
- TheNInthCut 15y agoGot it - .tm_properties goes in your home folder, wasn't sure if this was project specific. Example contents: fontName = "Bitstream Vera Sans Mono" fontSize = 16 tabSize = 2 softTabs = true
- joshaidan 15y agoLooks like the Alpha is back up! Just downloaded it.
- LordHog 15y agoHow does BBEdit compare to TextMate and Sublime Text?