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Batteries will get stolen for same reason.
by TheLoafOfBread 4y ago
Batteries will get stolen for same reason.
- gpm 4y agoI doubt it. Catalytic converters are stolen because they're valuable and easy to make off with. Car batteries are frickin giant, and if you try and take only a piece you get a giant fire instead of a valuable source of rare metals. They don't seem like a great thing to steal.
- dimitrios1 4y agoYou are really discounting the ingenuity of criminals. If they can steal 4 tires with wheel locks off your car, they can steal your undercarriage battery.
- MBCook 4y agoIt’s THOUSANDS of pounds. It’s not a trivial operation. It may happen, but it will never be anywhere near as common as cat theft. One is safe, trivial, fast, and pays a lot. The other is extremely difficult, possibly lethal, and can’t easily be melted down for profit like a cat.
- dylan604 4y agoAs connected as modern EV cars are, stealing one would seem like a dumb decision since they'll know exactly where the car is. I know chop shops are quick, but I still wouldn't want to knowingly bring something with tracking devices into my criminal lair.
- SoftTalker 4y agoThey'll figure out how to cut or disable the antenna and/or transmitter pretty quickly.
- tpxl 4y agoLoad it up onto a container truck and you got yourself a nice Faraday cage to block the trackers.
- linsomniac 4y agoReally? I'm pretty sure I have the tools in my garage to steal 4 wheels with locking nuts. I'm absolutely certain I couldn't steal the battery in my EV without stealing the whole EV. Which has a GPS tracker built into it.
- mechanical_bear 4y agoFaraday cages and transport trucks. The next EV theft wave.
- Someone1234 4y agoEV batteries are becoming STRUCTURAL, meaning they make up the core vehicle shell of the car, use hardened steel reinforcement and weight 1-2K pounds. They're also super dangerous if punctured. It would be easier to steal the whole vehicle than to steal the battery alone. I'd go so far as to say that an EV is a glorified "battery with wheels" since the actual drive components are a minority of the weight/complexity/cost. If a criminal can steal the whole EV, they will, if they cannot then stealing the battery alone isn't realistic.
- kazinator 4y agoNon-removable batteries, wow. I worry that a parallel development might happen in smartphones.
- germinalphrase 4y agoAgreed. It’s thirty seconds with a battery powered reciprocating saw to remove a cat which is also light enough to be carried by one person. There’s no way EV batteries could be accessed and transported away so quickly.
- Gibbon1 4y agoI'm pretty sure the organized rings salvage the ceramic out of cats and then ship that overseas via backhauled shipping containers.
- kybernetyk 4y agoA new incentive to steal cars then. Steal car, harvest battery cells worth $20k+, ditch the rest of the car. No silly VIN numbers, etc. Just anonymous 18650 cells (or whatever they use now).
- ridgered4 4y agoI was under the impression most car thefts were already to chop them up for parts anyway so this doesn't seem like a new incentive.
- Workaccount2 4y agoWait till the stories come out about criminals discovery what an extremely low impedance source of 700V does to your body.
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- 1970-01-01 4y agoI think e-bikes are already easy prey in large cities.
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- themitigating 4y agoA tesla model 3 battery weighs over 1000lbs
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- TheLoafOfBread 4y agoThey are able to lift whole car in a daylight to steal a catalytic converter. 500kg battery is nothing.
- themitigating 4y agoLet's say you get the battery out by unbolting it in a short amount of time. You'd have to let it drop onto something to then remove it from the car. In one video a person used 2x4s then pulled it out with another vehicle. Now what? How do you get it into another vehicle to transport? There's no place for a small crane to attach to. You would need some sort of hydraulic lift that would be similar to a pallet jack. Once it's up you then need to move it onto the truck which would be difficult. Maybe you can drag it on the back of a truck using a pickup bed mounted winch. Finally what do you do with it? It's nearly impossible to remove the individual cells, they are incased in some sort of protective foam that you have to chisel out. Sell the entire thing? Tesla will know the battery is stolen, car reads the serial number, bam, back to you. Not to mention how large it is, how many could you do in one night? More importantly why did you make your post? Do you have EVs so much that anytime even a slight advantage comes along you have to dispute it? Maybe you just like to argue. It's just really weird.
- mrguyorama 4y agoNobody is jacking up a car to get to the cat. You just slide under with a $50 harbor freight sawzall and spend two minutes making two cuts.
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- danans 4y agoOnly when the thieves have robotic exoskeletons.
- drewmol 4y agoI’d be ok with a KYC law for the exoskeletons, if that becomes a problem
- TheLoafOfBread 4y agoOr a simple jack lift, pallet trolley and few pulleys. Just like on manufacturing line, why it should be complicated?