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The fact that Coca-Cola sponsors a climate conference is crazy to me. That a UN climate conference NEEDS a corporate sponsor is also ridiculous.
by nrki 4y ago
The fact that Coca-Cola sponsors a climate conference is crazy to me. That a UN climate conference NEEDS a corporate sponsor is also ridiculous.
- ars 4y ago> The fact that Coca-Cola sponsors a climate conference is crazy to me. It's not that crazy: Scenario: the product you make needs plastic packaging. You want to do as best you can with the constraint that you will keep shipping product. So you sponsor a climate conference to get ideas on what you can improve. The option of "don't ship product" is not an option. Given that, what can you do instead?
- karmakurtisaani 4y agoOr, you sponsor a conference that you can say you're doing something, while actually pushing your influence to make sure the most profitable actions are taken in the end.
- bondarchuk 4y agoIt makes perfect sense from coca cola's perspective to sponsor a climate conference, what makes no sense at all and what I think GP is getting at is that it's completely insane from the climate conference's perspective to be sponsored by coca cola. (And please spare me the cynical explanation of why it does make sense from a cynical climate conference's perspective.)
- Dylan16807 4y agoIs it wrong for a climate conference to take money from big corporations at all?
- paulryanrogers 4y agoConflict of interest when corporations like Coca Cola engage in massive green-washing campaigns
- Dylan16807 4y agoWhat if they're an average company environmentally, with no green-washing?
- paulryanrogers 4y agoLess concerning, though corporations are by nature usually self-interested and motivated solely by profit.
- brundozer 4y ago> So you sponsor a climate conference to get ideas on what you can improve. What kind of ideas does sponsoring give you access to that you wouldn't get otherwise?
- wccrawford 4y agoAssuming the conference is still as big without sponsorship, maybe nothing. But if the conference is smaller or doesn't exist because it can't afford to...
- andrei_says_ 4y agoCorporations are sociopathic entities dedicated to extraction of wealth. As such they end up accumulating most of the wealth, at the expense of everyone and everything else - including our biosphere. Wealth is power. It is literally a contract to make people do as one says. Corporations use this power to encode their advantages in laws - laws that all of us are bound to follow, despite having no consent in creating them. Sociopathic entities will do anything without perception of morals. Sponsoring an environmental conference must be good for perception and that must be good for business. We humans have magnified and empowered and deitified some of the scariest tendencies of our minds and turned them into unstoppable entities of epic proportions. Now we walk amongst these demons of our own creation, somehow hypnotized in accepting the global destruction they cause as completely normal. This is nothing new for anyone here - and we all go about our days.
- bluescrn 4y agoNot as crazy as the number of people who'll be flying in on private jets for the conference.
- umeshunni 4y agoA tiny number compared to the number of people flying daily.
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- happyopossum 4y agoWait, we're talking about not flying somewhere due to the environmental impact. Are you now suggesting that we should not heat our homes due to same?
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y agoThere are ~100,000 flights per day. Who cares?
- kevinventullo 4y agoHow many plastic bottles of water are carbon-equivalent to taking a single international flight?
- bluescrn 4y agoIt's about the image. There's no attempt to lead by example. Get some good PR photos of the rich+powerful travelling economy-class then cycling from the hotel to the event, maybe? They're making it so obvious that the 'ruling class' are going to place the entire burden of climate change reduction on the less well-off parts of society, people for whom the loss of their car will be devastating, people who can barely afford to heat their homes already, people who can only dream of the hugely expensive green tech (EVs, solar, heat pumps, etc) being sold to the middle-class and up as some sort of solution.