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The question is what is the problem the Chinese government wants to solve? If they want to limit demonstrations and get even more power over the people, lockdo

The question is what is the problem the Chinese government wants to solve? If they want to limit demonstrations and get even more power over the people, lockdowns and not allowing mRNA based vaccines inside the country is a great tool.

wisty 4y ago
China had heavy lockdowns. Changing the policy could be seen as admitting they made a mistake. There's one party, but multiple factions, and some factions pushed lockdowns harder than others.
- KVFinn 4y ago
  I still can't understand it. Even if China were motivated purely by not wanting to make past decisions seem wise, we've had so many reasons to change policy. Vaccines, monoclonals, paxlovid, and now updated vaccines. You may still need lockdowns to manage surges that go over your capacity to treat, but going for zero Covid?
hef19898 4y ago
We talk about someone with serious self-confidence and self-esteem issues, he made Winnie the Pooh illegal after all, on his way to become de-facto dictator of China. So yes, I'd say more power over the people is exactly what Chinese leadership wants. That they ruin the economy over it, well, all totalitarian regimes learned that part the hard way sooner or later.
- nsonha 4y ago
  https://www.quora.com/Is-Winnie-the-Pooh-really-banned-in-China-or-is-it-Western-propaganda-Could-someone-living-in-China-answer-that-question https://www.quora.com/Is-Winnie-the-Pooh-really-banned-in-Ch... Now find me the exact Chinese legal doc that bans Winnie the Pooh.
  - dendriti 4y ago
    I love the Winnie the Pooh quip because it helps me identify those who have no business commenting about China.
    - hef19898 4y ago
      Linking Winnie the Pooh to Xi Ping is not allowed, can we at least agree on that? How unacceptable from me to oversimplify things in short, obviously not researched, online forum comment. Edit: A chinese resident confirmed that two links into the Quora page linked to above. Quora insists on Facebook or Google for me, so no linking.
  - bitcurious 4y ago
    Find me any Chinese legal doc that enumerates the speech that get you censored on WeChat or Weibo.
    - nsonha 4y ago
      so we're supposed to argue about the existence of things without any evidence?
      - hef19898 4y ago
        Not necessarily, but rather to accept things, in this case the Chinese system and how rules are defined and enforced.
CaptainZapp 4y ago
> The question is what is the problem the Chinese government wants to solve? They want to avoid that the Dear Leader (who went all in on a massively restrictive Covid policy and took full credit for it) loses face.
charlieyu1 4y ago
Winnie the Pooh thinks he is going to die with the virus so he must ensure his survival at all costs
nonrandomstring 4y ago
> "rides are continuing to operate for those trapped inside The Happiest Place on Earth" Jinping isn't pulling the strings. Mouse Tse-Tung is behind this.

wisty 4y ago

China had heavy lockdowns. Changing the policy could be seen as admitting they made a mistake. There's one party, but multiple factions, and some factions pushed lockdowns harder than others.

KVFinn 4y ago
I still can't understand it. Even if China were motivated purely by not wanting to make past decisions seem wise, we've had so many reasons to change policy. Vaccines, monoclonals, paxlovid, and now updated vaccines. You may still need lockdowns to manage surges that go over your capacity to treat, but going for zero Covid?

hef19898 4y ago

We talk about someone with serious self-confidence and self-esteem issues, he made Winnie the Pooh illegal after all, on his way to become de-facto dictator of China. So yes, I'd say more power over the people is exactly what Chinese leadership wants. That they ruin the economy over it, well, all totalitarian regimes learned that part the hard way sooner or later.

nsonha 4y ago
https://www.quora.com/Is-Winnie-the-Pooh-really-banned-in-China-or-is-it-Western-propaganda-Could-someone-living-in-China-answer-that-question https://www.quora.com/Is-Winnie-the-Pooh-really-banned-in-Ch... Now find me the exact Chinese legal doc that bans Winnie the Pooh.
- dendriti 4y ago
  I love the Winnie the Pooh quip because it helps me identify those who have no business commenting about China.
  - hef19898 4y ago
    Linking Winnie the Pooh to Xi Ping is not allowed, can we at least agree on that? How unacceptable from me to oversimplify things in short, obviously not researched, online forum comment. Edit: A chinese resident confirmed that two links into the Quora page linked to above. Quora insists on Facebook or Google for me, so no linking.
- bitcurious 4y ago
  Find me any Chinese legal doc that enumerates the speech that get you censored on WeChat or Weibo.
  - nsonha 4y ago
    so we're supposed to argue about the existence of things without any evidence?
    - hef19898 4y ago
      Not necessarily, but rather to accept things, in this case the Chinese system and how rules are defined and enforced.

CaptainZapp 4y ago

> The question is what is the problem the Chinese government wants to solve? They want to avoid that the Dear Leader (who went all in on a massively restrictive Covid policy and took full credit for it) loses face.

charlieyu1 4y ago

Winnie the Pooh thinks he is going to die with the virus so he must ensure his survival at all costs

nonrandomstring 4y ago

> "rides are continuing to operate for those trapped inside The Happiest Place on Earth" Jinping isn't pulling the strings. Mouse Tse-Tung is behind this.