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> washing hands I always thought the pandemic will make fist bumps or other forms of greetings “mainstream”. But everyone (I know) have reverted back to hand shakes. I guessing the same with Covid hygiene measures. > get the vaccine without turning into political drama all over Twitter. Like the majority of the people not taking the vaccine are on Twitter or do so because of social media drama.

i_am_proteus 4y ago
I personally had hoped the pan demic would normalize the wearing of gloves when in public, to be taken off as needed to eat, etc. But here we are. [Edited to explicitly indicate that this was a satirical post]
- nells 4y ago
  Some people here in HN said that the pandemic would normalise using masks - the way things are now every time I see someone wearing a mask I can’t help but think that they are ill and infectious; it’s very very rare. So glad that we are back to the way it was.
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  - thot_experiment 4y ago
    Huh. Weird, it's definitely moved the overton window a ton where I am and I'm glad of it. It's totally normal and nobody cares one way or the other as far as I've noticed. It's nice to be able to mask up without any feeling of stigma about it. Masking up just sort of seems like the altruistic move on public transit and the like, this was true before covid, esp during flu season, and I always felt a little embarrassed for our society that it wasn't considered normal.
    - nells 4y ago
      It takes a special kind of person to cover half their face with a dirty mask and make it harder for themselves to breathe just so they don’t catch a cold.
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      - s5300 4y ago
        Where are your presumptions that the mask is both dirty & it makes the wearer have difficulty breathing? Projection of your overall health & cleanliness?
      - DocTomoe 4y ago
        Compare that to East Asia, where wearing a mask during Flu season was a common thing to prevent your own disease to spread to others long before Covid was known (I've seen sources claiming they started doing so after the Spanish Flu). Of course, we cannot expect us Westerners to have that level of compassion and common sense.
      - 4ggr0 4y ago
        > just so they don’t catch a cold. The people I know who still wear masks and myself wear them so that others don't get our cold, not necessarily to protect ourselves. A form of respect towards co-workers etc.
        2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
        Yes. Unfortunately it hasn’t stuck in Australia either. Back to people coughing all over everything out in public. I cannot remember a time as an adult where I have had so few sick days over a 3 year span. Guess that’s over now.
        4ggr0 4y ago
        I noticed this as well, yes. I travel by train and the amount of people who sound sick is astonishing, lots of coworkers were sick in the last couple of weeks. Didn't get me yet, touch wood.
  - 6stringmerc 4y ago
    I just got a phone message reminder from my County health department emphasizing getting the booster. It’s motivating me to go ahead and put it on my priority list, at my specialist center there are a ton of cancer patients and the masks are now stated as mandatory for all. Not enforced but still, it’s posted. I thought masks were the clearest indicator of a person’s perspective on themselves and their role in society: the same ones who complain about their rights being oppressed are the ones who get the most upset with people like me who take them at their word and then suddenly discover hypocrisy at the core. I’m so glad we had this moment for people to show their true selves in such a simple fashion. Not as easy as the “Insane” hand stamp that Homer Simpson got (“why won’t this wash off?!?!”) but it’s nature at work again. See bright color snake or reptile? Likely poisonous as a defense mechanism. See a human with dyed hair and a bunch of metal shit in their face? Different kind of poisonous but still there. No mask during peak time = asshole. The same kind of asshole that doesn’t put their shopping cart / trolley back in the corral. Yes, those people are assholes. If you’re that lazy, reader, stop acting like an asshole. Hope you have a living will or your own respirator on standby, cuz your attitude is going to mandate in the long run you’re in the “didn’t give a shit then, so we don’t give a shit now” pile. It’s called a hospital. A very, very close friend was saved by NYC EMTs and Doctors and from that experience career changed into a full RN now on a cardiac ward in Ohio. He’s super high risk and excerpt from COVID work thankfully. It was a hard job at first, watching 50% of patients die because what brought them in was too late to fix. Game over. When COVID hit he told me stories of how many middle America reasonable people were in denial as it was killing them in beds. They fought until the end. The worst ones realized they fucked up and would pay for it and with no friends or family on the way out. Fuckin brutal, death in cold sterile isolation with yourself to blame. Intellectual suicide. It will never be the way it was ever again, because our society is broken because people like you care more about the wrong shit than you can admit, and politely, don’t wear a mask, fully inhale on that helium tank to entertain your friends with a funny voice at your next party.
    - sweettea 4y ago
      >See a human with dyed hair and a bunch of metal shit in their face? Different kind of poisonous but still there. Fascinating. Can you elaborate on why they're poisonous?
  - sokoloff 4y ago
    I see a few people each day wearing masks. I don’t jump to any particular conclusion about it; why they wear it is their business.
    - wccrawford 4y ago
      I recently caught Covid for the first time, and even though it was a fairly mild version of the symptoms, I don't want to that happen again... If I'm in crowded situations, I'll be wearing a mask for a while again. It's just self-protection.
  - neither_color 4y ago
    In the DC area you still see one in a dozen or so people wearing masks. It's not considered unusual or discouraged as far as I know.
  - matwood 4y ago
    IDK. I've been traveling recently for work and am surprised how many masks I see on airplanes and in airports. I think it has been normalized for anyone who wants to wear one.
- heavenlyblue 4y ago
  This is the reason you are not the one writing policies. How would wearing gloves help? You are not getting ill from having COVID on your hands.
  - refurb 4y ago
    Not only that, unless you constantly change gloves they provide little protection since you can still touch multiple people and touch your face with gloves on.
  - causi 4y ago
    There's yet to be a single well-documented case of someone catching COVID via surface contamination, let alone enough to justify putting a lot of effort into, say, sanitizing your grocery bags.
  - mensetmanusman 4y ago
    Where I work you have to change gloves when you move from any work location/room, because gloves spread contamination. Asking for glove use would have a huge environmental impact…
- ls15 4y ago
  > [Edited to explicitly indicate that this was a satirical post] Nobody would be able to tell in our era.
ihatepython 4y ago
I prefer handshakes to make sure someone isn't carrying a knife or dagger. Covid is less of a worry.
- recuter 4y ago
  Isn't an ocular patdown sufficient for threat assessment Mac?
- 6stringmerc 4y ago
  You can find out a lot about a person with a UFIA.
- CaptainZapp 4y ago
  Thoroughly washing hands regularly is one of the one behavior I kept after the pandemic. I'm aware that fomites are not the main cause (or even a cause at all) that the disease spreads. Nevertheless, proper hand hygiene seems to be a good idea to me.
  - ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
    Same here. I now wash my hands, every time I come home. I think Fauci said that he hoped that COVID would stop "the barbaric practice of shaking hands." Yeeeahhh... I don't think that's happening. In some Asian countries, people bow, or clasp their own hands in greeting and/or respect.
  - cm2187 4y ago
    Though the more you live in a sterile environment the less your immune system learns to fight pathogens and you may pay it dearly later on.
- ramraj07 4y ago
  But how would you judge a MANs character by the firmness of his handshake then?
geraldcombs 4y ago
> I always thought the pandemic will make fist bumps or other forms of greetings “mainstream”. But everyone (I know) have reverted back to hand shakes. I thought that the pandemic would make sneezing and coughing into your hands passé, but I still see plenty of people doing exactly that.
netsharc 4y ago
The risk from handshakes (or other surfaces) is considered pretty low: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-research/surface-transmission.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-r... Of course the risk-averse would not be satisfied with "pretty low risk" and can still refuse handshakes. I remember reading that for someone to give you Covid through a handshake, they'd have to cough into their hand, shake your hand, and you'd have to put your hand close to your mouth/nose soon after that. The Chinese government were reporting virus samples found on surfaces after 3 days, but these were tiny samples, tiny viral loads won't harm us. Indoor masking is also not 100%, you can't smell Covid but you can smell cigarette smoke, I think an appropriate analogy is, if someone's been exhaling their cigarette-smoke-laden breath into a room for 30 minutes, and you walked into that room, would you smell the cigarette? Even with a Covid mask?

i_am_proteus 4y ago

I personally had hoped the pan demic would normalize the wearing of gloves when in public, to be taken off as needed to eat, etc. But here we are. [Edited to explicitly indicate that this was a satirical post]

nells 4y ago
Some people here in HN said that the pandemic would normalise using masks - the way things are now every time I see someone wearing a mask I can’t help but think that they are ill and infectious; it’s very very rare. So glad that we are back to the way it was.
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- thot_experiment 4y ago
  Huh. Weird, it's definitely moved the overton window a ton where I am and I'm glad of it. It's totally normal and nobody cares one way or the other as far as I've noticed. It's nice to be able to mask up without any feeling of stigma about it. Masking up just sort of seems like the altruistic move on public transit and the like, this was true before covid, esp during flu season, and I always felt a little embarrassed for our society that it wasn't considered normal.
  - nells 4y ago
    It takes a special kind of person to cover half their face with a dirty mask and make it harder for themselves to breathe just so they don’t catch a cold.
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    - s5300 4y ago
      Where are your presumptions that the mask is both dirty & it makes the wearer have difficulty breathing? Projection of your overall health & cleanliness?
    - DocTomoe 4y ago
      Compare that to East Asia, where wearing a mask during Flu season was a common thing to prevent your own disease to spread to others long before Covid was known (I've seen sources claiming they started doing so after the Spanish Flu). Of course, we cannot expect us Westerners to have that level of compassion and common sense.
    - 4ggr0 4y ago
      > just so they don’t catch a cold. The people I know who still wear masks and myself wear them so that others don't get our cold, not necessarily to protect ourselves. A form of respect towards co-workers etc.
      - 2muchcoffeeman 4y ago
        Yes. Unfortunately it hasn’t stuck in Australia either. Back to people coughing all over everything out in public. I cannot remember a time as an adult where I have had so few sick days over a 3 year span. Guess that’s over now.
        4ggr0 4y ago
        I noticed this as well, yes. I travel by train and the amount of people who sound sick is astonishing, lots of coworkers were sick in the last couple of weeks. Didn't get me yet, touch wood.
- 6stringmerc 4y ago
  I just got a phone message reminder from my County health department emphasizing getting the booster. It’s motivating me to go ahead and put it on my priority list, at my specialist center there are a ton of cancer patients and the masks are now stated as mandatory for all. Not enforced but still, it’s posted. I thought masks were the clearest indicator of a person’s perspective on themselves and their role in society: the same ones who complain about their rights being oppressed are the ones who get the most upset with people like me who take them at their word and then suddenly discover hypocrisy at the core. I’m so glad we had this moment for people to show their true selves in such a simple fashion. Not as easy as the “Insane” hand stamp that Homer Simpson got (“why won’t this wash off?!?!”) but it’s nature at work again. See bright color snake or reptile? Likely poisonous as a defense mechanism. See a human with dyed hair and a bunch of metal shit in their face? Different kind of poisonous but still there. No mask during peak time = asshole. The same kind of asshole that doesn’t put their shopping cart / trolley back in the corral. Yes, those people are assholes. If you’re that lazy, reader, stop acting like an asshole. Hope you have a living will or your own respirator on standby, cuz your attitude is going to mandate in the long run you’re in the “didn’t give a shit then, so we don’t give a shit now” pile. It’s called a hospital. A very, very close friend was saved by NYC EMTs and Doctors and from that experience career changed into a full RN now on a cardiac ward in Ohio. He’s super high risk and excerpt from COVID work thankfully. It was a hard job at first, watching 50% of patients die because what brought them in was too late to fix. Game over. When COVID hit he told me stories of how many middle America reasonable people were in denial as it was killing them in beds. They fought until the end. The worst ones realized they fucked up and would pay for it and with no friends or family on the way out. Fuckin brutal, death in cold sterile isolation with yourself to blame. Intellectual suicide. It will never be the way it was ever again, because our society is broken because people like you care more about the wrong shit than you can admit, and politely, don’t wear a mask, fully inhale on that helium tank to entertain your friends with a funny voice at your next party.
  - sweettea 4y ago
    >See a human with dyed hair and a bunch of metal shit in their face? Different kind of poisonous but still there. Fascinating. Can you elaborate on why they're poisonous?
- sokoloff 4y ago
  I see a few people each day wearing masks. I don’t jump to any particular conclusion about it; why they wear it is their business.
  - wccrawford 4y ago
    I recently caught Covid for the first time, and even though it was a fairly mild version of the symptoms, I don't want to that happen again... If I'm in crowded situations, I'll be wearing a mask for a while again. It's just self-protection.
- neither_color 4y ago
  In the DC area you still see one in a dozen or so people wearing masks. It's not considered unusual or discouraged as far as I know.
- matwood 4y ago
  IDK. I've been traveling recently for work and am surprised how many masks I see on airplanes and in airports. I think it has been normalized for anyone who wants to wear one.
heavenlyblue 4y ago
This is the reason you are not the one writing policies. How would wearing gloves help? You are not getting ill from having COVID on your hands.
- refurb 4y ago
  Not only that, unless you constantly change gloves they provide little protection since you can still touch multiple people and touch your face with gloves on.
- causi 4y ago
  There's yet to be a single well-documented case of someone catching COVID via surface contamination, let alone enough to justify putting a lot of effort into, say, sanitizing your grocery bags.
- mensetmanusman 4y ago
  Where I work you have to change gloves when you move from any work location/room, because gloves spread contamination. Asking for glove use would have a huge environmental impact…
ls15 4y ago
> [Edited to explicitly indicate that this was a satirical post] Nobody would be able to tell in our era.

ihatepython 4y ago

I prefer handshakes to make sure someone isn't carrying a knife or dagger. Covid is less of a worry.

recuter 4y ago
Isn't an ocular patdown sufficient for threat assessment Mac?
6stringmerc 4y ago
You can find out a lot about a person with a UFIA.
CaptainZapp 4y ago
Thoroughly washing hands regularly is one of the one behavior I kept after the pandemic. I'm aware that fomites are not the main cause (or even a cause at all) that the disease spreads. Nevertheless, proper hand hygiene seems to be a good idea to me.
- ChrisMarshallNY 4y ago
  Same here. I now wash my hands, every time I come home. I think Fauci said that he hoped that COVID would stop "the barbaric practice of shaking hands." Yeeeahhh... I don't think that's happening. In some Asian countries, people bow, or clasp their own hands in greeting and/or respect.
- cm2187 4y ago
  Though the more you live in a sterile environment the less your immune system learns to fight pathogens and you may pay it dearly later on.
ramraj07 4y ago
But how would you judge a MANs character by the firmness of his handshake then?

geraldcombs 4y ago

> I always thought the pandemic will make fist bumps or other forms of greetings “mainstream”. But everyone (I know) have reverted back to hand shakes. I thought that the pandemic would make sneezing and coughing into your hands passé, but I still see plenty of people doing exactly that.

netsharc 4y ago

The risk from handshakes (or other surfaces) is considered pretty low: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-research/surface-transmission.html https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/more/science-and-r... Of course the risk-averse would not be satisfied with "pretty low risk" and can still refuse handshakes. I remember reading that for someone to give you Covid through a handshake, they'd have to cough into their hand, shake your hand, and you'd have to put your hand close to your mouth/nose soon after that. The Chinese government were reporting virus samples found on surfaces after 3 days, but these were tiny samples, tiny viral loads won't harm us. Indoor masking is also not 100%, you can't smell Covid but you can smell cigarette smoke, I think an appropriate analogy is, if someone's been exhaling their cigarette-smoke-laden breath into a room for 30 minutes, and you walked into that room, would you smell the cigarette? Even with a Covid mask?