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True, but most of the cooks I know don't have to live in the basement of their kitchens.

bombcar 4y ago
But that pay includes room and board (I think? Hope? I assume you don't have to bring your own boat) but it's also darn close to some of the McDonald's ads I've seen. I think the real kicker is there is/was a group of people who would do 6 months on the boat, 6 on shore and were happy with that setup, but now they can only do on the boat or just give up and go work on land.
- causi 4y ago
  Not to mention pretty insane post-career benefits. I've had to hire more than one wildly unqualified person because higher-ups have a hardon for veterans.
  - vkou 4y ago
    > Not to mention pretty insane post-career benefits. VA healthcare is garbage, and pensions are heavily backloaded for people who have done the full 20.
    - causi 4y ago
      VA healthcare is garbage VA healthcare is a bonus. You don't have to use it. pensions are heavily backloaded for people who have done the full 20 You realize regular people only get their retirement after thirty years, right? "Full 20" indeed.
      - cjrp 4y ago
        Thirty years in the same job though? Presumably that's the criteria of the full 20?
      - sndean 4y ago
        You get monthly pay for life after 20 years of service. The amount you receive is certainly higher after 30, but 30 isn't the minimum for eligibility.
        ben_w 4y ago
        High street cooks don't get that after 20, which I think is the point being made here. I'd have to check what the pension rules actually are to say if it's 30 or 40 or more for civilians, but it's not 20.
        nradov 4y ago
        In the USA, most civilian workers are eligible for Social Security retirement payments after 10 years of work. But payments only start when you actually retire at age 62+. Whereas military pensions start as soon as you retire from the service. So there are people who enlist at age 18, retire at 38, and then go on to have a second civilian career while simultaneously collecting a military pension. It's a pretty good deal for those willing to take the risk and stick it out.
hoseja 4y ago
And, you know, be in military shape. And be in military. The salary should be serviceman + head cook.

But that pay includes room and board (I think? Hope? I assume you don't have to bring your own boat) but it's also darn close to some of the McDonald's ads I've seen. I think the real kicker is there is/was a group of people who would do 6 months on the boat, 6 on shore and were happy with that setup, but now they can only do on the boat or just give up and go work on land.

causi 4y ago
Not to mention pretty insane post-career benefits. I've had to hire more than one wildly unqualified person because higher-ups have a hardon for veterans.
- vkou 4y ago
  > Not to mention pretty insane post-career benefits. VA healthcare is garbage, and pensions are heavily backloaded for people who have done the full 20.
  - causi 4y ago
    VA healthcare is garbage VA healthcare is a bonus. You don't have to use it. pensions are heavily backloaded for people who have done the full 20 You realize regular people only get their retirement after thirty years, right? "Full 20" indeed.
    - cjrp 4y ago
      Thirty years in the same job though? Presumably that's the criteria of the full 20?
    - sndean 4y ago
      You get monthly pay for life after 20 years of service. The amount you receive is certainly higher after 30, but 30 isn't the minimum for eligibility.
      - ben_w 4y ago
        High street cooks don't get that after 20, which I think is the point being made here. I'd have to check what the pension rules actually are to say if it's 30 or 40 or more for civilians, but it's not 20.
        nradov 4y ago
        In the USA, most civilian workers are eligible for Social Security retirement payments after 10 years of work. But payments only start when you actually retire at age 62+. Whereas military pensions start as soon as you retire from the service. So there are people who enlist at age 18, retire at 38, and then go on to have a second civilian career while simultaneously collecting a military pension. It's a pretty good deal for those willing to take the risk and stick it out.

hoseja 4y ago

And, you know, be in military shape. And be in military. The salary should be serviceman + head cook.