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What is the thinking behind the "no detachable lens cameras" rule? I can't wrap my head around that choice.

adrr 4y ago
No professional photographers. I was told at a hotel that i couldn't use my mirrorless camera on their property by their security and that was the reason.
- cthalupa 4y ago
  Now THIS makes no sense to me. In the Before days, I used to travel extensively for work, and would frequently bring my a7r along, and never once had any issues taking photos at a hotel across dozens of cities and a dozen countries. (Not doubting it happened, just think that's a very weird line of rationale from them)
  - adrr 4y ago
    Miami at a trendy hotel known for celebs.
MBCook 4y ago
I would guess to prevent professionals from taking pictures “for free” instead of getting contracts with the bands/venues and paying fees for the privilege. Or maybe they just annoy other patrons.
- cthalupa 4y ago
  I have managed to get a press pass for some shows and bring my a7r3, nice lenses, etc. I've never been asked to pay any sort of fee for the pass.
  - MBCook 4y ago
    That’s good to know. That was my “everyone is greedy these days” part of my guess. Was it hard to get the press pass? Maybe it’s just to stop people avoiding that process.
    - cthalupa 4y ago
      It varies. A couple of times I just sent an email and they told me when/where to pick it up. Other times they wanted to see my work - a few of these, a personal blog with basically no traffic was enough to pass muster, a few, they wanted to see me working at some sort of actual publication (digital was fine, but it needed to be more than "cthalupa's concert blog")
fortylove 4y ago
I'd guess it's to avoid professional photography equipment that can take up a lot of space (think zoom lenses)
cthalupa 4y ago
There's a few primary reasons 1) Historically, some bands have been concerned about their image and felt that professional-looking photos that painted them in a bad light, whatever that meant in reality, would be more damaging than amateur photos. I don't hear this as much today, but 15 years ago it was frequently given. 2) Concerts with a lot of standing room near the stage already get quite crowded. Someone showing up with a bulky dslr (or even prosumer grade mirrorless) body and a 200mm lens is going to take up quite a bit of room. Prior to the advent of half the damn crowd keeping their phones in the air recording the show for the entirety of it I would also say it obscures vision and annoys people, but now it's really not any worse than that 3) They don't want someone to try and hold them liable if something goes wrong and some expensive camera body or glass gets broken. On the times I've been able to bring my full camera gear in without a press pass, I stick to as small of a lens as I can and avoid being near the front of the crowd. Thankfully, even quite a ways back from the front of the crowd, a 50mm prime lens will still take some fantastic photos on a real camera vs. what you get with a smartphone. I understand why the rules are in place, though, and I don't really have a problem with them in general.
- coin 4y ago
  Pancake lens comes to mind

adrr 4y ago

No professional photographers. I was told at a hotel that i couldn't use my mirrorless camera on their property by their security and that was the reason.

cthalupa 4y ago
Now THIS makes no sense to me. In the Before days, I used to travel extensively for work, and would frequently bring my a7r along, and never once had any issues taking photos at a hotel across dozens of cities and a dozen countries. (Not doubting it happened, just think that's a very weird line of rationale from them)
- adrr 4y ago
  Miami at a trendy hotel known for celebs.

MBCook 4y ago

I would guess to prevent professionals from taking pictures “for free” instead of getting contracts with the bands/venues and paying fees for the privilege. Or maybe they just annoy other patrons.

cthalupa 4y ago
I have managed to get a press pass for some shows and bring my a7r3, nice lenses, etc. I've never been asked to pay any sort of fee for the pass.
- MBCook 4y ago
  That’s good to know. That was my “everyone is greedy these days” part of my guess. Was it hard to get the press pass? Maybe it’s just to stop people avoiding that process.
  - cthalupa 4y ago
    It varies. A couple of times I just sent an email and they told me when/where to pick it up. Other times they wanted to see my work - a few of these, a personal blog with basically no traffic was enough to pass muster, a few, they wanted to see me working at some sort of actual publication (digital was fine, but it needed to be more than "cthalupa's concert blog")

fortylove 4y ago

I'd guess it's to avoid professional photography equipment that can take up a lot of space (think zoom lenses)

cthalupa 4y ago

There's a few primary reasons 1) Historically, some bands have been concerned about their image and felt that professional-looking photos that painted them in a bad light, whatever that meant in reality, would be more damaging than amateur photos. I don't hear this as much today, but 15 years ago it was frequently given. 2) Concerts with a lot of standing room near the stage already get quite crowded. Someone showing up with a bulky dslr (or even prosumer grade mirrorless) body and a 200mm lens is going to take up quite a bit of room. Prior to the advent of half the damn crowd keeping their phones in the air recording the show for the entirety of it I would also say it obscures vision and annoys people, but now it's really not any worse than that 3) They don't want someone to try and hold them liable if something goes wrong and some expensive camera body or glass gets broken. On the times I've been able to bring my full camera gear in without a press pass, I stick to as small of a lens as I can and avoid being near the front of the crowd. Thankfully, even quite a ways back from the front of the crowd, a 50mm prime lens will still take some fantastic photos on a real camera vs. what you get with a smartphone. I understand why the rules are in place, though, and I don't really have a problem with them in general.

coin 4y ago
Pancake lens comes to mind