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give me this for mac os please. my home-rolled dotfiles repo is ok, but id really love some config management system that’s not ansible that i could use to boot

give me this for mac os please. my home-rolled dotfiles repo is ok, but id really love some config management system that’s not ansible that i could use to bootstrap my workstations. i used to write a lot of chef and generally like ruby, but i can’t make heads or tails of whatever progress chef is. mostly seems like chef as an oss tool is dead. anybody got something else they like to configure their mac os systems with?

thenipper 4y ago
Pyinfra supports home brew: https://docs.pyinfra.com/en/latest/operations/brew.html https://docs.pyinfra.com/en/latest/operations/brew.html I’ve thought about using it to set up my machines/machines at work but haven’t gone down that road yet.
okasaki 4y ago
What's wrong with ansible?
- candiddevmike 4y ago
  Same, I looked all over the project and couldn't find a reason for using it vs Ansible.
  - 1MachineElf 4y ago
    Depending on your needs, one advantage over Ansible is lack of Python dependency.
- nanozuki 4y ago
  Too heavy, too complex and too slow. Although ansible can be used in local machine, but it is design for multiple remote machine. For example, if you want copy a config file to target, you must use some tools like `scp` or do some hacking. And it's much slow than shell script, and the print in stdio is ugly. (because it's design for running in 100 machines in one time.) Ansible also had a steep learning curve, and redhat did not prepare a good beginner's manual for it. Searching the web there is only the experience of people who have used it for years, each with their own way of writing. There are no best practices for getting started easily.
  - lmz 4y ago
    Ansible has a steep learning curve? The easiest thing to do is just a list of steps (playbook) and I'm sure that is in the getting started docs. Modularizing complicates things obviously but for simple uses I don't see how it can be simplified much further.
    - allarm 4y ago
      Yes, it was harder to master than terraform and even k8s. Their documentation was the reason, in most cases.
  - yunohn 4y ago
    > if you want copy a config file to target, you must use some tools like `scp` or do some hacking Maybe I misunderstood, but I use copy (1) for this in Ansible. This is standard, and you shouldn’t need scp? (1) https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/collections/ansible/builtin/copy_module.html https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/collections/ansible/...
CGamesPlay 4y ago
Ansible is a little heavyweight for what you want, but if you wrap it in a script and only use the built-in modules, it's probably got everything you need. Here's the wrapper script: ansible-playbook -i localhost, --connection=local playbook.yml "$@" You run the script with "-CD" for dry run mode, and without arguments for production mode. And here's the docs for the available modules [0]. [0] https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/collections/ansible/builtin/index.html#modules https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/collections/ansible/...
- geerlingguy 4y ago
  This is how I set up my Mac as well; just a local connection. Sets up out of box Mac in about 15 minutes and I can keep my two Mac's configs in perfect sync: https://github.com/geerlingguy/mac-dev-playbook https://github.com/geerlingguy/mac-dev-playbook
grepLeigh 4y ago
What didn't you like about Ansible? Here's an example of how I use an Ansible playbook to manage my own dotfiles: https://github.com/leigh-johnson/dotfiles/blob/master/install.yml https://github.com/leigh-johnson/dotfiles/blob/master/instal...
yuppie_scum 4y ago
May I recommend: https://github.com/lra/mackup https://github.com/lra/mackup
datalopers 4y ago
ansible just runs commands over ssh. can’t get more simple.
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  Except it is bloated and slow, and primarily only maintained by Red Hat where they don't fix bugs for extended periods of time. Their loops and register methods are extremely slow taking 30 seconds to delete a group of files and folders which only takes a second in Bash.
  - datalopers 4y ago
    Bloated, slow, and unmaintained. You’ve just describe the three core tenets of python packages.
  - colordrops 4y ago
    Also the deployments decay and break over time
    - deleted 4y ago
      [deleted]
    - encryptluks2 4y ago
      Very true. I really wish Terraform would have attempted to solve automation on the scale of Ansible, or another organization would have committed to a replacement in Go or Rust. Unfortunately Ansible is still the best that we have currently.
      - softjobs 4y ago
        There's https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt, written in Go.
        encryptluks2 4y ago
theshrike79 4y ago
I use chezmoi + homebrew. 1) Install homebrew (one-liner, easily googled) 2) Use brew to install chezmoi 3) chezmoi pulls my dotfiles, including my Brewfile 4) Say 'brew bundle' and 90-95% of the software I need is installed Then I need to set up settings sync in VSCode and Alfred and I'm pretty much done. What few things are missing I can install manually, or update the Brewfile to match.
- wkdneidbwf 4y ago
  yeah, my home rolled stuff does the same with the Brewfile. chezmoi looks great though—i have a bit of cross-platform (mac os and linux) stuff happening too, so this looks really great to make those bits better. thanks!

thenipper 4y ago

Pyinfra supports home brew: https://docs.pyinfra.com/en/latest/operations/brew.html https://docs.pyinfra.com/en/latest/operations/brew.html I’ve thought about using it to set up my machines/machines at work but haven’t gone down that road yet.

okasaki 4y ago

What's wrong with ansible?

candiddevmike 4y ago
Same, I looked all over the project and couldn't find a reason for using it vs Ansible.
- 1MachineElf 4y ago
  Depending on your needs, one advantage over Ansible is lack of Python dependency.
nanozuki 4y ago
Too heavy, too complex and too slow. Although ansible can be used in local machine, but it is design for multiple remote machine. For example, if you want copy a config file to target, you must use some tools like `scp` or do some hacking. And it's much slow than shell script, and the print in stdio is ugly. (because it's design for running in 100 machines in one time.) Ansible also had a steep learning curve, and redhat did not prepare a good beginner's manual for it. Searching the web there is only the experience of people who have used it for years, each with their own way of writing. There are no best practices for getting started easily.
- lmz 4y ago
  Ansible has a steep learning curve? The easiest thing to do is just a list of steps (playbook) and I'm sure that is in the getting started docs. Modularizing complicates things obviously but for simple uses I don't see how it can be simplified much further.
  - allarm 4y ago
    Yes, it was harder to master than terraform and even k8s. Their documentation was the reason, in most cases.
- yunohn 4y ago
  > if you want copy a config file to target, you must use some tools like `scp` or do some hacking Maybe I misunderstood, but I use copy (1) for this in Ansible. This is standard, and you shouldn’t need scp? (1) https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/collections/ansible/builtin/copy_module.html https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/collections/ansible/...

CGamesPlay 4y ago

Ansible is a little heavyweight for what you want, but if you wrap it in a script and only use the built-in modules, it's probably got everything you need. Here's the wrapper script: ansible-playbook -i localhost, --connection=local playbook.yml "$@" You run the script with "-CD" for dry run mode, and without arguments for production mode. And here's the docs for the available modules [0]. [0] https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/collections/ansible/builtin/index.html#modules https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/collections/ansible/...

geerlingguy 4y ago
This is how I set up my Mac as well; just a local connection. Sets up out of box Mac in about 15 minutes and I can keep my two Mac's configs in perfect sync: https://github.com/geerlingguy/mac-dev-playbook https://github.com/geerlingguy/mac-dev-playbook

grepLeigh 4y ago

What didn't you like about Ansible? Here's an example of how I use an Ansible playbook to manage my own dotfiles: https://github.com/leigh-johnson/dotfiles/blob/master/install.yml https://github.com/leigh-johnson/dotfiles/blob/master/instal...

yuppie_scum 4y ago

May I recommend: https://github.com/lra/mackup https://github.com/lra/mackup

datalopers 4y ago

ansible just runs commands over ssh. can’t get more simple.

encryptluks2 4y ago
Except it is bloated and slow, and primarily only maintained by Red Hat where they don't fix bugs for extended periods of time. Their loops and register methods are extremely slow taking 30 seconds to delete a group of files and folders which only takes a second in Bash.
- datalopers 4y ago
  Bloated, slow, and unmaintained. You’ve just describe the three core tenets of python packages.
- colordrops 4y ago
  Also the deployments decay and break over time
  - deleted 4y ago
    [deleted]
  - encryptluks2 4y ago
    Very true. I really wish Terraform would have attempted to solve automation on the scale of Ansible, or another organization would have committed to a replacement in Go or Rust. Unfortunately Ansible is still the best that we have currently.
    - softjobs 4y ago
      There's https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt https://github.com/purpleidea/mgmt, written in Go.
      - encryptluks2 4y ago

theshrike79 4y ago

I use chezmoi + homebrew. 1) Install homebrew (one-liner, easily googled) 2) Use brew to install chezmoi 3) chezmoi pulls my dotfiles, including my Brewfile 4) Say 'brew bundle' and 90-95% of the software I need is installed Then I need to set up settings sync in VSCode and Alfred and I'm pretty much done. What few things are missing I can install manually, or update the Brewfile to match.

wkdneidbwf 4y ago
yeah, my home rolled stuff does the same with the Brewfile. chezmoi looks great though—i have a bit of cross-platform (mac os and linux) stuff happening too, so this looks really great to make those bits better. thanks!