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All the intelligent creatures of present earth took at least the 2-4 billion years to come into their existence. The universe 13 billion years old but maybe the
by joe_the_user 4y ago
All the intelligent creatures of present earth took at least the 2-4 billion years to come into their existence. The universe 13 billion years old but maybe the early universe was too hostile to allow progress, maybe it required many billion years to have the occasional planet with a wide and useful variety of elements.
"the leap to exponential tool" - the current human leap to exponential resource consumption seems to be colliding with the limited and fragile structure of the earth (IE, CO2 pollution is pushing to catastrophic global warming). A fair number of decision makers seem to expect some tech fix to appear when every indication is it won't. My point is "getting to stars" would require technological progress in a situation where a species learns to curb an appetite for exponential growth, something human beings certainly haven't achieved.
- 3pt14159 4y agoBut this is built into the Drake equation to begin with! My other response details out what I was thinking he meant in the first place. If you want to argue the Drake equation on its own, that is cool, but it wasn't what I thought OP was talking about. My central argument is that if we are first that is pretty unlikely because we have 1000s of intelligent species and for us to be first of many on our own homeworld in addition to being first in the galaxy or beyond is much less likely. That said, I could see an argument being made for combative intelligences coevolving increased intelligence and this being the counterpoint to my counterpoint. Though I don't buy it.