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> the employer can demand whatever they want and fire you for whatever reason they want In the US. I'm glad I work in a country where workers actually have ri
by xnorswap 4y ago
> the employer can demand whatever they want and fire you for whatever reason they want
In the US.
I'm glad I work in a country where workers actually have rights.
- drstewart 4y agoGood for you.
- lucozade 4y agoWell yes. Yes it is.
- bpodgursky 4y agoYou probably don't work in a country with a 3.5% unemployment rate.
- xnorswap 4y agoActually I do, precisely 3.5% in fact: https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peoplenotinwork/unemployment https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peoplenotin...
- nebula8804 4y agoThat unemployment rate is nonsense. If you want a job that does not pay you enough to even afford a studio apartment in many locales then yes there are multiple jobs ready to take you. Hell they'll even provide you some free (candy\pens\fast food\a pat on the back) to further tempt the deal. For everyone else that unemployment rate is a mirage.
- LightG 4y agoAre you telling me there are no housing affordability problems in the US? Fascinating.
- jdm2212 4y agoEverything in life is tradeoffs. American software engineers get paid more than basically anyone else in the world, but we also have less job security. What's preferable just depends on your risk aversion vs marginal utility of money.
- BaseballPhysics 4y ago> American software engineers get paid more than basically anyone else in the world, but we also have less job security. What's preferable just depends on your risk aversion vs marginal utility of money. Of course, this comment is predicated on the assumption that America's loose labour laws are the reason for this salary disparity, and I'm not personally willing to follow you to that conclusion. I think it's far more likely that American software engineers get paid more because the industry was effectively born there, and it was born there due to historical accidents like the US being where the transistor was invented, the advancement of technology due to government spending during World War II and the subsequent space race, etc, not to mention the US being the center of the VC world, which has its own deep history.
- habitue 4y agoA tradeoff can exist without implying that the tradeoff is necessary. In other words, America has A but not B, Europe has B but not A, and there doesn't happen to be a place with both A and B, but it's not impossible in principle. Workers would still need to decide if they value A or B more, even if in a perfect world they could have both.
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- BaseballPhysics 4y agoFair enough. I took the parent comment to be implying that that tradeoff was necessary--i.e. to have high salaries you have to have loose labour laws--as opposed to a simple statement about the current world we live in. If it's the latter, absolutely you are right, and it is certainly the case that tech employees today are forced to make the choice between New York/California tech salaries and strong labour laws, regardless of whether or not there's a necessary inverse relationship between those two things.
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- ryan93 4y agoIt means if you lose out on a job to a less qualified person there is much less chance it ever gets rectified in your favor.