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I'm an Iranian and the current situation in Iran is not good. No internet. Businesses have stopped because of uncertainty and constant protests and crackdowns.

I'm an Iranian and the current situation in Iran is not good. No internet. Businesses have stopped because of uncertainty and constant protests and crackdowns. I don't know what will happen next. I think it will get uglier.

xenospn 4y ago
Stay safe! Hope it gets better soon.
- winrid 4y ago
  the west in one comment
  - baxtr 4y ago
    “We will send troops to overthrow your government” - the West in one comment “We will send money and weapons so that you can defend yourselves” - the West in one comment “We will mandate sanctions on your government” - the West in one comment “We will do nothing just wish you all the best” - the West in one comment
    - qikInNdOutReply 4y ago
      He who tries to change the world, from a position in power, will always have the barking of the underdogs. Its easy beeing a underdog, you dont have to provide analysis or better solutions, you dont have to proof that you are not delusional, that those you represent are good (lots of evil ex-empires among todays underdogs), all you have to do is bark and bite. Even if you have a "desert-mumified" culture like in the middle east, that has adapted to survival in a manmade dessert, without risky progress. Even landing a western spaceship, proofing things can thrive in the dessert, will not change what people have internalized over the centuries. Rather the local culture rubs off on the spaceship and it begins to rust into the same empire scrap yard. Things proofen not to work: * military interventions * secret service interventions * cultural nudging (soft power) * brute force take-overs (colonialism) Ironically, if humanity goes into desert mode, it brings the desert with it. You produce lots of offspring for the inevitable war, when crashing into the resource ceiling. You shun risky capitalist endavours. You vote for one strong man and against diversity of opinion and culture. (prevents civil war, which is always worser then external warfare). And we had that in medieval europe too, just listen to a catholic preacher and you can hear the bad times ruleset singing itself praises, less your lineage withers. A maxed out environment is a trap, preventing complex structures and escape attempts. @qpqpdbdbqpqp I honestly do not see were my viewpoint is racist. I argue that all of humanity, when run into a ressource spares environment, is behaviour optimized towards this loop. The "western spaceships" aka iraq and afghanistan were doomed to fail, as all the outside surplus is converted into "catastrophe" preparations or escape plans. Would have done the same in the situation. Israel might be a exemption for now, but even there the orthodox "survial-mode" culture is taking over the enlightment project form within. And its universal. As soon as things run out, conservative mindsets take over and all ventures and endavours come to a screeching halt. Sorry, if the physical limitations and the negative impression it made on humanity, scare you and your idealized view of the world.
      - qpqpdbdbqpqp 4y ago
        NickRandom 4y ago
        ~ And you could have written a well thought out rebuttal instead of your one liner. At least the g.p spent some time on their thoughts. Have a down vote on me.
      - baxtr 4y ago
        WW1 and 2 are pretty solid examples where military interventions have worked out just fine.
        AlmostAnyone 4y ago
        Both of these were before nuclear weapons were a thing, though.
        ethbr0 4y ago
        WWI didn't work very well. See: WWII
        ohgodplsno 4y ago
        From an american perspective where they stayed in the back during WW1 and had to be trained on the spot, and were perfectly happy to work with nazi germany in WW2 until shit hit the fan, sure. For most of europe, it's a traumatic experience that led to dozens of millions of dead young adults, entire cities firebombed and razed to the ground, areas shelled so hard that even today their access is forbidden. But I'm sure it's much easier from a position of a country that never had a single war on its territory.
        baxtr 4y ago
        That’s maybe a misunderstanding. I’m not advocating war per se. Yet I think it was right that the US didn’t stay on the sidelines.
  - merek 4y ago
    And what says the East?
    - lionkor 4y ago
      "Ok but we can keep trading, yeah? Cool."
  - chitowneats 4y ago
    Your comment strikes me as more applicable to itself than to the one you responded to.
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encryptluks2 4y ago
- ashwagary 4y ago
  Underrated reply. Many in this thread erroneously take the prevailing state produced narratives as gospel imho.
  - encryptluks2 4y ago
    I just wish they studied history to realize that the US has a history of overthrowing Iran's democratically elected government and shares blame for the current conditions.
- bigbillheck 4y ago
  Reza Pahlavi's waiting for the phone call.
morumoy 4y ago
don't worry. the US is working hard to liberate soon
- mrcheesebreeze 4y ago
  knowing the usa it wouldn't be a good thing, that would be the 3rd western caused regime change. each time is worse than the last. what next, straight up facism?

xenospn 4y ago

Stay safe! Hope it gets better soon.

winrid 4y ago
the west in one comment
- baxtr 4y ago
  “We will send troops to overthrow your government” - the West in one comment “We will send money and weapons so that you can defend yourselves” - the West in one comment “We will mandate sanctions on your government” - the West in one comment “We will do nothing just wish you all the best” - the West in one comment
  - qikInNdOutReply 4y ago
    He who tries to change the world, from a position in power, will always have the barking of the underdogs. Its easy beeing a underdog, you dont have to provide analysis or better solutions, you dont have to proof that you are not delusional, that those you represent are good (lots of evil ex-empires among todays underdogs), all you have to do is bark and bite. Even if you have a "desert-mumified" culture like in the middle east, that has adapted to survival in a manmade dessert, without risky progress. Even landing a western spaceship, proofing things can thrive in the dessert, will not change what people have internalized over the centuries. Rather the local culture rubs off on the spaceship and it begins to rust into the same empire scrap yard. Things proofen not to work: * military interventions * secret service interventions * cultural nudging (soft power) * brute force take-overs (colonialism) Ironically, if humanity goes into desert mode, it brings the desert with it. You produce lots of offspring for the inevitable war, when crashing into the resource ceiling. You shun risky capitalist endavours. You vote for one strong man and against diversity of opinion and culture. (prevents civil war, which is always worser then external warfare). And we had that in medieval europe too, just listen to a catholic preacher and you can hear the bad times ruleset singing itself praises, less your lineage withers. A maxed out environment is a trap, preventing complex structures and escape attempts. @qpqpdbdbqpqp I honestly do not see were my viewpoint is racist. I argue that all of humanity, when run into a ressource spares environment, is behaviour optimized towards this loop. The "western spaceships" aka iraq and afghanistan were doomed to fail, as all the outside surplus is converted into "catastrophe" preparations or escape plans. Would have done the same in the situation. Israel might be a exemption for now, but even there the orthodox "survial-mode" culture is taking over the enlightment project form within. And its universal. As soon as things run out, conservative mindsets take over and all ventures and endavours come to a screeching halt. Sorry, if the physical limitations and the negative impression it made on humanity, scare you and your idealized view of the world.
    - qpqpdbdbqpqp 4y ago
      - NickRandom 4y ago
        ~ And you could have written a well thought out rebuttal instead of your one liner. At least the g.p spent some time on their thoughts. Have a down vote on me.
    - baxtr 4y ago
      WW1 and 2 are pretty solid examples where military interventions have worked out just fine.
      - AlmostAnyone 4y ago
        Both of these were before nuclear weapons were a thing, though.
      - ethbr0 4y ago
        WWI didn't work very well. See: WWII
      - ohgodplsno 4y ago
        From an american perspective where they stayed in the back during WW1 and had to be trained on the spot, and were perfectly happy to work with nazi germany in WW2 until shit hit the fan, sure. For most of europe, it's a traumatic experience that led to dozens of millions of dead young adults, entire cities firebombed and razed to the ground, areas shelled so hard that even today their access is forbidden. But I'm sure it's much easier from a position of a country that never had a single war on its territory.
        baxtr 4y ago
        That’s maybe a misunderstanding. I’m not advocating war per se. Yet I think it was right that the US didn’t stay on the sidelines.
- merek 4y ago
  And what says the East?
  - lionkor 4y ago
    "Ok but we can keep trading, yeah? Cool."
- chitowneats 4y ago
  Your comment strikes me as more applicable to itself than to the one you responded to.
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encryptluks2 4y ago

ashwagary 4y ago
Underrated reply. Many in this thread erroneously take the prevailing state produced narratives as gospel imho.
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  I just wish they studied history to realize that the US has a history of overthrowing Iran's democratically elected government and shares blame for the current conditions.
bigbillheck 4y ago
Reza Pahlavi's waiting for the phone call.

morumoy 4y ago

don't worry. the US is working hard to liberate soon

mrcheesebreeze 4y ago
knowing the usa it wouldn't be a good thing, that would be the 3rd western caused regime change. each time is worse than the last. what next, straight up facism?