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I've watched the video and I still don't understand how you get the wire through the conduit though. Part of the video seemed to happen through telekinesis: the

I've watched the video and I still don't understand how you get the wire through the conduit though. Part of the video seemed to happen through telekinesis: the part where a wire magically came out of the wall, allowing you to pull from the other side.

js2 4y ago
I'm not sure which video you mean, but you use either a fish tape or a pull line. I know that Verizon also has fiber with a stiffer jacket that they can push through conduit a pretty good distance. I know this because I helped the Verizon installer run FIOS at my daughter's apartment in a building that was over 100 years old. The conduit had a crimp in it so it took the two of us a while to get past that.
- sschueller 4y ago
  Probably referring to this demonstration video regarding the FTTH Squeeze plate where the pull line comes flying through the conduit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARSpp4B9-X4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARSpp4B9-X4
  - js2 4y ago
    That's a fish tape being pushed through from the other end.
thefounder 4y ago
You have to have a wire installed in the first place(i.e coax or just a simple thin but strong wire). That wire is installed when you install the walls/gypsum. Then you use it to pull whatever you need(hdmi etc). When you pull the new wire(hdmi) you attach an additional wire at the tip so that you can pull back your initial wire once your new HDMI is in place. If you don't have an initial wire installed you can use a magnet kit with a specific wire to pull it through the conduit.(e.g youtube "magnepull"). A camera small comes in handy as well. If you need to pull wires through the ceiling and you already have recessed lights you can use their wires to pull your new wire.
- yakubin 4y ago
  That explains it. Thanks.
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  > You have to have a wire installed in the first place(i.e coax or just a simple thin but strong wire). That wire is installed when you install the walls/gypsum. Unfortunately, in my experience of 6 or 7 new builds in the last 15 years or so, coaxial cables are usually staples to the studs and useless for this purpose.
  - dfc 4y ago
    Coax stapled to the studs is different than coax running inside of a conduit.
    - ComputerGuru 4y ago
      I have never seen coax running in a conduit in a residential setting in the USA.
  - thefounder 4y ago
    >> Unfortunately, in my experience of 6 or 7 new builds in the last 15 years or so, coaxial cables are usually staples to the studs and useless for this purpose. Well, that's part of the fun/job. Usually you end-up with a few holes as well so you try to get hold of anything that helps you, "one inch" at a time. As always, the easy way to deal with this is to let someone else do the job(hire a pro/custom installer).
- wrycoder 4y ago
  You use two semi-stiff snake tapes with hooks on the ends. The idea is to snag the hooks. The biggest skill is you have to hold your jaw just right when you do it. Then, it’s a piece of cake.
Unklejoe 4y ago
You can attach a string to a foam ball/plunger type thing and then suck it through with a vacuum from the other side. Then, fix your wire to the string and pull it back in the other direction.
- uncanneyvalley 4y ago
  A plastic bag tied to pulling twine works really well and is less likely to get stuck than a ball or plunger. I always leave a length of twine in my conduits so I only have to use the vacuum method once.
  - sponaugle 4y ago
    Indeed the plastic bag trick works very very well in a lot of different use cases. I was able to pull twine over 500 feet with this technique while doing my driveway conduits.
    - sokoloff 4y ago
      I had about 50 feet and 270° of bends in some PVC conduits I'd buried under a section of yard. I'd gotten everything done and asked my wife to come help me get the poly string and then mule tape into the conduits. The poly line practically leapt into the conduit chasing the plastic bag. It was one of the greatest ratios between how hard I thought something might be and how hard it actually was.
      - rootusrootus 4y ago
        Pulling a bit of twine through from my pool over to where I had installed my equipment pad went much the same way, and I was too dumb to think about using a plastic bag ;). Just stuffed a bit of twine in one and and left it loose, walked over to the other and and put a shop vac on it, and -whoosh- here came the string. Felt like cheating. It was only a small conduit, though, 3/4 inch, so it had pretty good airflow.

js2 4y ago

I'm not sure which video you mean, but you use either a fish tape or a pull line. I know that Verizon also has fiber with a stiffer jacket that they can push through conduit a pretty good distance. I know this because I helped the Verizon installer run FIOS at my daughter's apartment in a building that was over 100 years old. The conduit had a crimp in it so it took the two of us a while to get past that.

sschueller 4y ago
Probably referring to this demonstration video regarding the FTTH Squeeze plate where the pull line comes flying through the conduit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARSpp4B9-X4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARSpp4B9-X4
- js2 4y ago
  That's a fish tape being pushed through from the other end.

thefounder 4y ago

You have to have a wire installed in the first place(i.e coax or just a simple thin but strong wire). That wire is installed when you install the walls/gypsum. Then you use it to pull whatever you need(hdmi etc). When you pull the new wire(hdmi) you attach an additional wire at the tip so that you can pull back your initial wire once your new HDMI is in place. If you don't have an initial wire installed you can use a magnet kit with a specific wire to pull it through the conduit.(e.g youtube "magnepull"). A camera small comes in handy as well. If you need to pull wires through the ceiling and you already have recessed lights you can use their wires to pull your new wire.

yakubin 4y ago
That explains it. Thanks.
lotsofpulp 4y ago
> You have to have a wire installed in the first place(i.e coax or just a simple thin but strong wire). That wire is installed when you install the walls/gypsum. Unfortunately, in my experience of 6 or 7 new builds in the last 15 years or so, coaxial cables are usually staples to the studs and useless for this purpose.
- dfc 4y ago
  Coax stapled to the studs is different than coax running inside of a conduit.
  - ComputerGuru 4y ago
    I have never seen coax running in a conduit in a residential setting in the USA.
- thefounder 4y ago
  >> Unfortunately, in my experience of 6 or 7 new builds in the last 15 years or so, coaxial cables are usually staples to the studs and useless for this purpose. Well, that's part of the fun/job. Usually you end-up with a few holes as well so you try to get hold of anything that helps you, "one inch" at a time. As always, the easy way to deal with this is to let someone else do the job(hire a pro/custom installer).
wrycoder 4y ago
You use two semi-stiff snake tapes with hooks on the ends. The idea is to snag the hooks. The biggest skill is you have to hold your jaw just right when you do it. Then, it’s a piece of cake.

Unklejoe 4y ago

You can attach a string to a foam ball/plunger type thing and then suck it through with a vacuum from the other side. Then, fix your wire to the string and pull it back in the other direction.

uncanneyvalley 4y ago
A plastic bag tied to pulling twine works really well and is less likely to get stuck than a ball or plunger. I always leave a length of twine in my conduits so I only have to use the vacuum method once.
- sponaugle 4y ago
  Indeed the plastic bag trick works very very well in a lot of different use cases. I was able to pull twine over 500 feet with this technique while doing my driveway conduits.
  - sokoloff 4y ago
    I had about 50 feet and 270° of bends in some PVC conduits I'd buried under a section of yard. I'd gotten everything done and asked my wife to come help me get the poly string and then mule tape into the conduits. The poly line practically leapt into the conduit chasing the plastic bag. It was one of the greatest ratios between how hard I thought something might be and how hard it actually was.
    - rootusrootus 4y ago
      Pulling a bit of twine through from my pool over to where I had installed my equipment pad went much the same way, and I was too dumb to think about using a plastic bag ;). Just stuffed a bit of twine in one and and left it loose, walked over to the other and and put a shop vac on it, and -whoosh- here came the string. Felt like cheating. It was only a small conduit, though, 3/4 inch, so it had pretty good airflow.