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Elon has only been there for 24 hours. It sounds like your not a fan of Elon and nothing he’ll do can change your opinion. Why not hold back the strong judgeme

by cudgy 4y ago

Elon has only been there for 24 hours. It sounds like your not a fan of Elon and nothing he’ll do can change your opinion. Why not hold back the strong judgements and conclusions for at least a few months? Maybe he will surprise you?

Jotra7 4y ago
pavlov 4y ago
See, this is where a car and a social network are fundamentally different. I own a Tesla. It’s a good car (although I’m unhappy about how much I paid for the FSD package which was nothing of the sort — borderline advertising fraud). Next year I’m probably buying another car, and if Tesla is still the best for the money, I’ll get one regardless of my personal feelings. But with Twitter it’s not an objective decision. The app doesn’t deliver quantifiable day-to-day value like a car does. Now that I’ve removed Twitter from my life, it’s very unlikely that I’d ever go back. MySpace did a lot of product changes in 2008 to bring back the users who had defected to FB. Nothing moved the needle. That’s just how it is with these products. I’m surprised Elon pretends to be oblivious to this dynamic. My 10-year experience with Twitter was one of frustration. I had almost 1,000 followers, I tweeted regularly, tried to be nice and occasionally witty, replied and retweeted mostly useful stuff. Yet I never got any engagement. A few likes on a tweet was the upper limit of interest. Every other social media platform is much better at rewarding regular users like me. But Musk doesn’t seem to want to address this; instead he wants to bring back Trump. Why should I stay?
- cudgy 4y ago
  Hard for me to say. What type of reward are you expecting to get out of Twitter or social media in general? Maybe you are expecting too much or the wrong types of rewards?
  - pavlov 4y ago
    If the social product isn’t rewarding to me, that’s entirely their problem, not mine. There’s no other reason to use it.
  - etc-hosts 4y ago
    Jack would constantly email everyone internally that one of their jobs is to provide a Delightful Experience for Twitters users. Currently when I load up twitter it's a stream of gloating jerks. I think an internal model in Twitter has concluded the best way to drive engagement in my demographic is enrage me. Correct I guess?
    - cudgy 4y ago
      Why not avoid the algorithmic feed from Twitter and only look at what your chosen followed users are posting? Relying on a third party to provide both breadth of information and inoffensive posts is asking too much. Just as in real life, not every person you cross paths with is worth your time. Wading into public spaces like Twitter requires some work on the users part to find gems of useful information … relying on the platform to do it for you is likely to never work perfectly.
      - freejazz 4y ago
        Someone should have told Elon this before he purchased Twitter
etc-hosts 4y ago
Personally I was willing to believe the Musk Twitter company will be a net benefit I notice that Musk is spending his time tweeting that it is possible Paul Pelosi was attacked by his gay lover, so it's not looking good.
- Melting_Harps 4y ago
  > I notice that Musk is spending his time tweeting that it is possible Paul Pelosi was attacked by his gay lover, so it's not looking good. I don't have twitter, and this narrative seems like the work of 4chan (4 the lulz), but it's true he really was hinting at this [0] being the case. I just hope this cesspool dies already, it seems liek an echo chmaber for the most feeble minded. I was catching up on the all in podcasts (missed 3 weeks worth) and the amount of servile rhetoric for Elon from those 4 is absurdly out of touch with reality given his actions--it's clear he was forced to overpay for something that has little utility in the grand-scheme of things--henc why Dorsey walked away. If this is to be successful, perhaps this tech apocalypse will start the demise of these platform's and will have less relevance from this point onward. But, I feel that he is doing what he is best at: Marketing. His tactics to bring in ad revenue are the same that cable news has with polemic based click-bait but that sad reality is that he has a legion of simps to dog-whistle to keep it afloat. 0: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11370729/Elon-Musk-shares-tweet-suggesting-Paul-Pelosis-attacker-GAY-PROSTITUTE.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11370729/Elon-Musk-...

by cudgy 4y ago

Jotra7 4y ago

pavlov 4y ago

See, this is where a car and a social network are fundamentally different. I own a Tesla. It’s a good car (although I’m unhappy about how much I paid for the FSD package which was nothing of the sort — borderline advertising fraud). Next year I’m probably buying another car, and if Tesla is still the best for the money, I’ll get one regardless of my personal feelings. But with Twitter it’s not an objective decision. The app doesn’t deliver quantifiable day-to-day value like a car does. Now that I’ve removed Twitter from my life, it’s very unlikely that I’d ever go back. MySpace did a lot of product changes in 2008 to bring back the users who had defected to FB. Nothing moved the needle. That’s just how it is with these products. I’m surprised Elon pretends to be oblivious to this dynamic. My 10-year experience with Twitter was one of frustration. I had almost 1,000 followers, I tweeted regularly, tried to be nice and occasionally witty, replied and retweeted mostly useful stuff. Yet I never got any engagement. A few likes on a tweet was the upper limit of interest. Every other social media platform is much better at rewarding regular users like me. But Musk doesn’t seem to want to address this; instead he wants to bring back Trump. Why should I stay?

cudgy 4y ago
Hard for me to say. What type of reward are you expecting to get out of Twitter or social media in general? Maybe you are expecting too much or the wrong types of rewards?
- pavlov 4y ago
  If the social product isn’t rewarding to me, that’s entirely their problem, not mine. There’s no other reason to use it.
- etc-hosts 4y ago
  Jack would constantly email everyone internally that one of their jobs is to provide a Delightful Experience for Twitters users. Currently when I load up twitter it's a stream of gloating jerks. I think an internal model in Twitter has concluded the best way to drive engagement in my demographic is enrage me. Correct I guess?
  - cudgy 4y ago
    Why not avoid the algorithmic feed from Twitter and only look at what your chosen followed users are posting? Relying on a third party to provide both breadth of information and inoffensive posts is asking too much. Just as in real life, not every person you cross paths with is worth your time. Wading into public spaces like Twitter requires some work on the users part to find gems of useful information … relying on the platform to do it for you is likely to never work perfectly.
    - freejazz 4y ago
      Someone should have told Elon this before he purchased Twitter

etc-hosts 4y ago

Personally I was willing to believe the Musk Twitter company will be a net benefit I notice that Musk is spending his time tweeting that it is possible Paul Pelosi was attacked by his gay lover, so it's not looking good.

Melting_Harps 4y ago
> I notice that Musk is spending his time tweeting that it is possible Paul Pelosi was attacked by his gay lover, so it's not looking good. I don't have twitter, and this narrative seems like the work of 4chan (4 the lulz), but it's true he really was hinting at this [0] being the case. I just hope this cesspool dies already, it seems liek an echo chmaber for the most feeble minded. I was catching up on the all in podcasts (missed 3 weeks worth) and the amount of servile rhetoric for Elon from those 4 is absurdly out of touch with reality given his actions--it's clear he was forced to overpay for something that has little utility in the grand-scheme of things--henc why Dorsey walked away. If this is to be successful, perhaps this tech apocalypse will start the demise of these platform's and will have less relevance from this point onward. But, I feel that he is doing what he is best at: Marketing. His tactics to bring in ad revenue are the same that cable news has with polemic based click-bait but that sad reality is that he has a legion of simps to dog-whistle to keep it afloat. 0: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11370729/Elon-Musk-shares-tweet-suggesting-Paul-Pelosis-attacker-GAY-PROSTITUTE.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11370729/Elon-Musk-...