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Same could have been said for smartphone physical keyboard yet here we are. Touch screen is a better interface because the UI can adapt to the context. I get t

by phlhr 4y ago

Same could have been said for smartphone physical keyboard yet here we are. Touch screen is a better interface because the UI can adapt to the context. I get that when you are driving you don’t want to have to look at the screen but honestly the benefits far outweigh the perceived cons.

bipson 4y ago
It's not "perceived cons" - it causes accidents. It is distracting.
- themitigating 4y ago
  In 1930, laws were proposed in Massachusetts and St. Louis to ban radios while driving. According to automotive historian Michael Lamm, “Opponents of car radios argued that they distracted drivers and caused accidents, that tuning them took a driver’s attention away from the road, and that music could lull a driver to sleep.” https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/29631/when-car-radio-was-introduced-people-freaked-out https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/29631/when-car-radio-was...
  - kristiandupont 4y ago
    I am not sure what your point is here?
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  - imtringued 4y ago
    It's true but the physical buttons on my car radio let me get things over with very quickly. The more complicated and sophisticated you make the UI, the worse it is while driving. A touch screen invites excessive complexity the same way enterprise java invited excessive complexity.
  - bombolo 4y ago
    It has caused accidents, yes.
gambiting 4y ago
No, the same couldn't be said about smartphone keyboards. The space in a smartphone is at an extreme premium and having the ability to display a keyboard or something else is very valuable. In a car this problem doesn't exist - you can have a touchscreen AND a normal glovebox latch. Removing the glovebox latch and replacing it with a touchscreen is nothing but idiocy, with zero benefits for anyone, ever, at any point.
kergonath 4y ago
> Same could have been said for smartphone physical keyboard yet here we are. The safety aspects are quite different. It is mildly annoying not to be able to touch type text messages; it is deadly to have to fiddle with a touch screen for a car’s basic functionality.
lelanthran 4y ago
> Touch screen is a better interface because the UI can adapt to the context. I get that when you are driving you don’t want to have to look at the screen but honestly the benefits far outweigh the perceived cons. When people are too stupid to recognise satire, you get tremendous support for stupid things. https://www.theonion.com/apple-introduces-revolutionary-new-laptop-with-no-keybo-1819594761 https://www.theonion.com/apple-introduces-revolutionary-new-...
tester756 4y ago
>but honestly the benefits far outweigh the perceived cons. how?
nikau 4y ago
> Same could have been said for smartphone physical keyboard yet here we are. Yep that's why everyone is using 6" touchscreen keyboards on laptops and desktop PCs - oh wait, they aren't because there is plenty of space for physical buttons that work better.
neogodless 4y ago
Nope. I bought phones with physical keyboards for as long as I could, because they work better for me. But I'm not in the majority, and manufacturers didn't want to keep selling phones with moving parts, so here we are. And no way does a touch screen have benefits that outweigh the benefits of dedicated tactile controls for the driver.

by phlhr 4y ago

bipson 4y ago

It's not "perceived cons" - it causes accidents. It is distracting.

themitigating 4y ago
In 1930, laws were proposed in Massachusetts and St. Louis to ban radios while driving. According to automotive historian Michael Lamm, “Opponents of car radios argued that they distracted drivers and caused accidents, that tuning them took a driver’s attention away from the road, and that music could lull a driver to sleep.” https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/29631/when-car-radio-was-introduced-people-freaked-out https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/29631/when-car-radio-was...
- kristiandupont 4y ago
  I am not sure what your point is here?
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- imtringued 4y ago
  It's true but the physical buttons on my car radio let me get things over with very quickly. The more complicated and sophisticated you make the UI, the worse it is while driving. A touch screen invites excessive complexity the same way enterprise java invited excessive complexity.
- bombolo 4y ago
  It has caused accidents, yes.

gambiting 4y ago

No, the same couldn't be said about smartphone keyboards. The space in a smartphone is at an extreme premium and having the ability to display a keyboard or something else is very valuable. In a car this problem doesn't exist - you can have a touchscreen AND a normal glovebox latch. Removing the glovebox latch and replacing it with a touchscreen is nothing but idiocy, with zero benefits for anyone, ever, at any point.

kergonath 4y ago

> Same could have been said for smartphone physical keyboard yet here we are. The safety aspects are quite different. It is mildly annoying not to be able to touch type text messages; it is deadly to have to fiddle with a touch screen for a car’s basic functionality.

lelanthran 4y ago

> Touch screen is a better interface because the UI can adapt to the context. I get that when you are driving you don’t want to have to look at the screen but honestly the benefits far outweigh the perceived cons. When people are too stupid to recognise satire, you get tremendous support for stupid things. https://www.theonion.com/apple-introduces-revolutionary-new-laptop-with-no-keybo-1819594761 https://www.theonion.com/apple-introduces-revolutionary-new-...

tester756 4y ago

>but honestly the benefits far outweigh the perceived cons. how?

nikau 4y ago

> Same could have been said for smartphone physical keyboard yet here we are. Yep that's why everyone is using 6" touchscreen keyboards on laptops and desktop PCs - oh wait, they aren't because there is plenty of space for physical buttons that work better.

neogodless 4y ago

Nope. I bought phones with physical keyboards for as long as I could, because they work better for me. But I'm not in the majority, and manufacturers didn't want to keep selling phones with moving parts, so here we are. And no way does a touch screen have benefits that outweigh the benefits of dedicated tactile controls for the driver.