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Musk sounds like a nightmare to work for. Why would any self-respecting developer stick around under these conditions? I expect an exodus of talent from Twitter

Musk sounds like a nightmare to work for. Why would any self-respecting developer stick around under these conditions? I expect an exodus of talent from Twitter in short order.

threeseed 4y ago
Cult of personality. Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Bill Gates etc. were all a nightmare to work when they were younger.
- DoneWithAllThat 4y ago
  Well-behaved men rarely make history.
  - Spivak 4y ago
    Yeah you can’t really turn this quote around like that because it drastically changes the meaning. Well-behaved means with respect to an establishment and not accepting one’s place as imposed by it. Being a dick makes you not well-behaved in the way you would describe a toddler.
    - hnfong 4y ago
      That's exactly what the establishment would say to the non-well-behaved person.
fastball 4y ago
This assumes Twitter has serious talent. The company that implemented "undo tweet" with a setTimeout[1]. [1] https://twitter.com/swyx/status/1513301310434529288?s=20&t=QMBXSYQUcelY_HoRsdNaSw https://twitter.com/swyx/status/1513301310434529288?s=20&t=Q...
bpodgursky 4y ago
Have you looked at the Tesla share price history, or SpaceX valuation? Elon makes his equity-compensated employees rich. You don't need complex psychology to explain the appeal.
simonswords82 4y ago
For there to be an exodus of talent there must be first be talent. From what I can make out Twitter's workforce are predominantly average at best and I suspect we'll see at least 2,000 or so people cut in the next 6 months.
- Spivak 4y ago
  Large group tends toward the mean, news at 11. Average engineers keep the world running. Most code that needs to be written does not meaningfully benefit from talent. Losing all your tribal knowledge in any business unit is a mess. That’s the prediction. The talent at Twitter is likely already gone to another company for a raise. I’ve never seen the best engineers stick around after any acquisition.

Musk sounds like a nightmare to work for. Why would any self-respecting developer stick around under these conditions? I expect an exodus of talent from Twitter in short order.

threeseed 4y ago

Cult of personality. Steve Jobs, Larry Ellison, Bill Gates etc. were all a nightmare to work when they were younger.

DoneWithAllThat 4y ago
Well-behaved men rarely make history.
- Spivak 4y ago
  Yeah you can’t really turn this quote around like that because it drastically changes the meaning. Well-behaved means with respect to an establishment and not accepting one’s place as imposed by it. Being a dick makes you not well-behaved in the way you would describe a toddler.
  - hnfong 4y ago
    That's exactly what the establishment would say to the non-well-behaved person.

fastball 4y ago

This assumes Twitter has serious talent. The company that implemented "undo tweet" with a setTimeout[1]. [1] https://twitter.com/swyx/status/1513301310434529288?s=20&t=QMBXSYQUcelY_HoRsdNaSw https://twitter.com/swyx/status/1513301310434529288?s=20&t=Q...

bpodgursky 4y ago

Have you looked at the Tesla share price history, or SpaceX valuation? Elon makes his equity-compensated employees rich. You don't need complex psychology to explain the appeal.

simonswords82 4y ago

For there to be an exodus of talent there must be first be talent. From what I can make out Twitter's workforce are predominantly average at best and I suspect we'll see at least 2,000 or so people cut in the next 6 months.

Spivak 4y ago
Large group tends toward the mean, news at 11. Average engineers keep the world running. Most code that needs to be written does not meaningfully benefit from talent. Losing all your tribal knowledge in any business unit is a mess. That’s the prediction. The talent at Twitter is likely already gone to another company for a raise. I’ve never seen the best engineers stick around after any acquisition.