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Please follow the HN guidelines: > Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don'

Please follow the HN guidelines: > Eschew flamebait. Avoid generic tangents. Omit internet tropes. > Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. > Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. It tramples curiosity.

kevingadd 4y ago
Neonazis on social media is an ACTUAL PROBLEM that is relevant in a lot of contexts today, for example one of Putin's absurd false justifications for his invasion is to 'clean nazis out'. Don't just see the word 'nazi' and flip out. Nazis are back and making real strides in many countries and spaces.
- gjsman-1000 4y ago
  In which case, silencing them makes them martyrs and makes them feel important, which generally never works. People love being members of a secret "in-group" - just look at cults. Plus, it's not like it won't stop them - after all, the original Nazis did not need social media, or the internet, to obtain power. I say bring it out in daylight, and let them loose every debate they have so they look like idiots instead of martyrs.
  - judahmeek 4y ago
    I've never heard about anyone banned from Twitter just for losing a debate.
- josephcsible 4y ago
  > for example one of Putin's absurd false justifications for his invasion is to 'clean nazis out'. False accusations of Nazism are indeed really common and a big problem today. Actual Nazism is next to nonexistent.
- ErikVandeWater 4y ago
  > Neonazis on social media is an ACTUAL PROBLEM No, it's just easy ratings when the media can find examples of Neo-Nazis.
kevinh 4y ago
Please follow the HN guidelines: > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. > Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something.

kevingadd 4y ago

Neonazis on social media is an ACTUAL PROBLEM that is relevant in a lot of contexts today, for example one of Putin's absurd false justifications for his invasion is to 'clean nazis out'. Don't just see the word 'nazi' and flip out. Nazis are back and making real strides in many countries and spaces.

gjsman-1000 4y ago
In which case, silencing them makes them martyrs and makes them feel important, which generally never works. People love being members of a secret "in-group" - just look at cults. Plus, it's not like it won't stop them - after all, the original Nazis did not need social media, or the internet, to obtain power. I say bring it out in daylight, and let them loose every debate they have so they look like idiots instead of martyrs.
- judahmeek 4y ago
  I've never heard about anyone banned from Twitter just for losing a debate.
josephcsible 4y ago
> for example one of Putin's absurd false justifications for his invasion is to 'clean nazis out'. False accusations of Nazism are indeed really common and a big problem today. Actual Nazism is next to nonexistent.
ErikVandeWater 4y ago
> Neonazis on social media is an ACTUAL PROBLEM No, it's just easy ratings when the media can find examples of Neo-Nazis.

kevinh 4y ago

Please follow the HN guidelines: > Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith. > Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something.