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This happens all the time in the entertainment industry. For example: TV show X licenses pop song Y for its initial broadcast. The group that owns the syndicat

This happens all the time in the entertainment industry. For example: TV show X licenses pop song Y for its initial broadcast. The group that owns the syndication rights didn’t buy the right to use song Y, consequently they have to replace the music with generic Muzak in subsequent broadcasts. You pay for Netflix, start watching show X, and when it gets to the big dramatic moment with sweeping music (that you remember from when the show originally aired), it’s replaced with elevator music. Same goes for a lot of movies.

moolcool 4y ago
Yes, but that doesn't stop it from sucking. Also, they can do it with streaming media, but they can't come to my house and replace my DVDs. Just because it's technically correct, doesn't mean that it's not a bullshit model which is anti-consumer and anti-creativity.
LocalH 4y ago
The difference is, those changes don't affect existing copies, they affect new copies. If you have a VHS or DVD copy of the show before the license expired, then you have the original music. This is mangling old documents unless you pay a fee. Yet another example of modern copyright leading to the individuals having the least possible rights, in order to be nickled and dimed. It would make more sense if existing documents could still retain their colors, but new documents couldn't be made with the Pantone colors in question. It'd still suck, but it'd be more respectful to the end users of the software.
- frosted-flakes 4y ago
  But with screaming there are no old copies. And if you never update Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign Pantone colours will continue to work.
  - Macha 4y ago
    How long is not updating photoshop an option? Will the DRM stop supporting old versions eventually? (like it already has with some of the CS versions)
    - frosted-flakes 4y ago
      I'm not sure. I stopped using Adobe CC products as a hobbyist because it costs way too damn much (I was only able to get three years of a student subscription from 2 different school email addresses).
  - LocalH 4y ago
    People are also having issues with face detection libraries in the latest perpetually-licensed version of Lightroom. So that's not always true.
pradn 4y ago
Same issue for video games: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/alan-wake-to-be-removed-from-sold-over-music-licenses https://www.gamesindustry.biz/alan-wake-to-be-removed-from-s...
jakub_g 4y ago
> You pay for Netflix, start watching show X, and when it gets to the big dramatic moment with sweeping music (that you remember from when the show originally aired), it’s replaced with elevator music. > Same goes for a lot of movies. Wait wat? Do you have some examples / links?
- AequitasOmnibus 4y ago
  Dawson's Creek, for one: https://entertainment.ie/on-demand/on-demand-news/why-does-dawsons-creek-have-different-music-on-netflix-466381/ https://entertainment.ie/on-demand/on-demand-news/why-does-d...
- mbg721 4y ago
  WKRP in Cincinnati used a lot of rock/pop music that was replaced in syndication. I believe that's also why The Drew Carey Show isn't readily available these days.
- yoyohello13 4y ago
  Pretty much the entire Scrubs soundtrack is different on Netflix.
- javchz 4y ago
  I remember watching the episode "Faith" from Supernatural in TV with an amazing usage of "Don't fear the reaper" by Blue Öyster Cult (the cowbell one), and when trying to searching the episode in streaming platforms was replaced by a generic rock song... a total shame considering the plot of the episode it's about a literal Grim Reaper.
- Jedd 4y ago
  Northern Exposure did this - another TV show that had a spectacularly well considered soundtrack, but licensing costs were onerous. Though evidently the first season release did include original music, but had an exorbitant (retail) price - subsequent seasons they did the ol' elevator music swap-in. Aside - it explains why, so I've been told, there's two similarly popular torrents out there, one high-quality DVD-rip with a bad score, and one low-quality VHS-rip with the original score. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Exposure#Home_media https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Exposure#Home_media

moolcool 4y ago

Yes, but that doesn't stop it from sucking. Also, they can do it with streaming media, but they can't come to my house and replace my DVDs. Just because it's technically correct, doesn't mean that it's not a bullshit model which is anti-consumer and anti-creativity.

LocalH 4y ago

The difference is, those changes don't affect existing copies, they affect new copies. If you have a VHS or DVD copy of the show before the license expired, then you have the original music. This is mangling old documents unless you pay a fee. Yet another example of modern copyright leading to the individuals having the least possible rights, in order to be nickled and dimed. It would make more sense if existing documents could still retain their colors, but new documents couldn't be made with the Pantone colors in question. It'd still suck, but it'd be more respectful to the end users of the software.

frosted-flakes 4y ago
But with screaming there are no old copies. And if you never update Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign Pantone colours will continue to work.
- Macha 4y ago
  How long is not updating photoshop an option? Will the DRM stop supporting old versions eventually? (like it already has with some of the CS versions)
  - frosted-flakes 4y ago
    I'm not sure. I stopped using Adobe CC products as a hobbyist because it costs way too damn much (I was only able to get three years of a student subscription from 2 different school email addresses).
- LocalH 4y ago
  People are also having issues with face detection libraries in the latest perpetually-licensed version of Lightroom. So that's not always true.

pradn 4y ago

Same issue for video games: https://www.gamesindustry.biz/alan-wake-to-be-removed-from-sold-over-music-licenses https://www.gamesindustry.biz/alan-wake-to-be-removed-from-s...

jakub_g 4y ago

> You pay for Netflix, start watching show X, and when it gets to the big dramatic moment with sweeping music (that you remember from when the show originally aired), it’s replaced with elevator music. > Same goes for a lot of movies. Wait wat? Do you have some examples / links?

AequitasOmnibus 4y ago
Dawson's Creek, for one: https://entertainment.ie/on-demand/on-demand-news/why-does-dawsons-creek-have-different-music-on-netflix-466381/ https://entertainment.ie/on-demand/on-demand-news/why-does-d...
mbg721 4y ago
WKRP in Cincinnati used a lot of rock/pop music that was replaced in syndication. I believe that's also why The Drew Carey Show isn't readily available these days.
yoyohello13 4y ago
Pretty much the entire Scrubs soundtrack is different on Netflix.
javchz 4y ago
I remember watching the episode "Faith" from Supernatural in TV with an amazing usage of "Don't fear the reaper" by Blue Öyster Cult (the cowbell one), and when trying to searching the episode in streaming platforms was replaced by a generic rock song... a total shame considering the plot of the episode it's about a literal Grim Reaper.
Jedd 4y ago
Northern Exposure did this - another TV show that had a spectacularly well considered soundtrack, but licensing costs were onerous. Though evidently the first season release did include original music, but had an exorbitant (retail) price - subsequent seasons they did the ol' elevator music swap-in. Aside - it explains why, so I've been told, there's two similarly popular torrents out there, one high-quality DVD-rip with a bad score, and one low-quality VHS-rip with the original score. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Exposure#Home_media https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Exposure#Home_media