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There are plenty of “USB C specs” https://www.androidauthority.com/state-of-usb-c-870996/ https://www.androidauthority.com/state-of-usb-c-870996/

Dylan16807 4y ago
And they all require data wires. The minimum speed is the same speed as Lightning. And the minimum wattage is higher than Lightning as far as I am aware.
- scarface74 4y ago
  They definitely don’t. The USB C cord that came with the previous MacBook Pros were power only as are a lot of other USB C cables especially ones that come with headphones. The maximum wattage of the little USB C cable that comes with headphones certainly don’t support a minimum wattage that will charge a large iPhone at any appreciable speed.
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    > The USB C cord that came with the previous MacBook Pros were power only Which ones? The posts I can find say they do USB 2.0 > a lot of other USB C cables especially ones that come with headphones. > The maximum wattage of the little USB C cable that comes with headphones certainly don’t support a minimum wattage that will charge a large iPhone at any appreciable speed. Those cables don't meet the standard, then. The minimum is 3 amps and a single pair of data wires. And that doesn't require much, especially for a little 6 inch cable.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      Where in the law did it mention a minimum wattage?
      - Dylan16807 4y ago
        Now we've gone in a circle. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33365040 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33365040 If the law mandates USB C, then it mandates 3 amps for cables.
        scarface74 4y ago
        It mandates a USB C connector. They weren’t smart enough to mandate that “all USB C cables sold in the EU must actually meet the standard”. Then you also have the opposite problem. If the USB cable supports higher wattage power delivery, some low wattage USB C devices like headphones won’t charge.
        Dylan16807 4y ago
        > It mandates a USB C connector. They weren’t smart enough to mandate that “all USB C cables sold in the EU must actually meet the standard”. Then I don't know why you're spending so many posts purely about cables in complaint of this law. Cables have gone from unregulated to unregulated. If your underlying argument is "this is in the right direction but they should have gone further", you are not coming across that way with all your other posts. > Then you also have the opposite problem. If the USB cable supports higher wattage power delivery, some low wattage USB C devices like headphones won’t charge. Do you mean like the thing with raspberry pis? That wasn't about wattage, their miswiring meant that any cable with a tag would fail. Otherwise I don't see how that kind of failure is possible.
        scarface74 4y ago
        > Otherwise I don't see how that kind of failure is possible. Don’t you just love the USB C “standard”? https://www.quora.com/Why-do-my-headphones-only-charge-with-a-USB-C-cable-but-not-a-double-ended-type-C-port https://www.quora.com/Why-do-my-headphones-only-charge-with-... Just so you don’t think I’m choosing some no name headphones as an example https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00271328 https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00271328

Dylan16807 4y ago

And they all require data wires. The minimum speed is the same speed as Lightning. And the minimum wattage is higher than Lightning as far as I am aware.

scarface74 4y ago
They definitely don’t. The USB C cord that came with the previous MacBook Pros were power only as are a lot of other USB C cables especially ones that come with headphones. The maximum wattage of the little USB C cable that comes with headphones certainly don’t support a minimum wattage that will charge a large iPhone at any appreciable speed.
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  > The USB C cord that came with the previous MacBook Pros were power only Which ones? The posts I can find say they do USB 2.0 > a lot of other USB C cables especially ones that come with headphones. > The maximum wattage of the little USB C cable that comes with headphones certainly don’t support a minimum wattage that will charge a large iPhone at any appreciable speed. Those cables don't meet the standard, then. The minimum is 3 amps and a single pair of data wires. And that doesn't require much, especially for a little 6 inch cable.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    Where in the law did it mention a minimum wattage?
    - Dylan16807 4y ago
      Now we've gone in a circle. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33365040 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33365040 If the law mandates USB C, then it mandates 3 amps for cables.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        It mandates a USB C connector. They weren’t smart enough to mandate that “all USB C cables sold in the EU must actually meet the standard”. Then you also have the opposite problem. If the USB cable supports higher wattage power delivery, some low wattage USB C devices like headphones won’t charge.
        Dylan16807 4y ago
        > It mandates a USB C connector. They weren’t smart enough to mandate that “all USB C cables sold in the EU must actually meet the standard”. Then I don't know why you're spending so many posts purely about cables in complaint of this law. Cables have gone from unregulated to unregulated. If your underlying argument is "this is in the right direction but they should have gone further", you are not coming across that way with all your other posts. > Then you also have the opposite problem. If the USB cable supports higher wattage power delivery, some low wattage USB C devices like headphones won’t charge. Do you mean like the thing with raspberry pis? That wasn't about wattage, their miswiring meant that any cable with a tag would fail. Otherwise I don't see how that kind of failure is possible.
        scarface74 4y ago
        > Otherwise I don't see how that kind of failure is possible. Don’t you just love the USB C “standard”? https://www.quora.com/Why-do-my-headphones-only-charge-with-a-USB-C-cable-but-not-a-double-ended-type-C-port https://www.quora.com/Why-do-my-headphones-only-charge-with-... Just so you don’t think I’m choosing some no name headphones as an example https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00271328 https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00271328